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Battle Info 2008-02-17

Bronze Cup - Week 1 (1)

Quakeklan

0 - 2

Naim

E1M2 - The Castle of the Damned

113-322
Reports
Since Godis and Lurq has been inactive a couple of weeks we decided to first play a dm3 as a pracc to see how we were doing overall. Pracc didn't go very well so we decided to pick E1M2 as our map, thinking we might have a chance to beat'em here. Ooouh we were wrong. Didn't matter how many armors or RL's we took, Arnette was seen all over the map with Q and just wiped our team out over and over. WP NAIM and especially Arnette. GG //fog - by Quakeklan

DM3 - The Abandoned Base

116-178
Reports
DM3 was their choice. After the earlier pracc on dm3 I understand the decision. This time we played a lot better, being able to snatch 2-3 pents, and taking down several RL-enemys with LG from center. We had a lot of chances to turn the game, but somehow Arnette showed up with Q LG or Igggy put a rocket in your face, well backed up by the rest of the team. Felt like it could end either way first 15 mins, but they managed to get control and the defeat was a fact. GG's Naim! //fog - by Quakeklan

Comments

187 - 81.175.234.***	080218 @ 09:43:22
hahhahah arnette having fun :D

VVD - 194.186.53.***	080218 @ 10:46:50
Wrong div? :-D

Hooraytio - 89.160.23.***	080218 @ 19:46:37
well, all clans cannot play rookie or silver. quakeklan are not really rookies and tbh naim are no silver clan despite having arnette

Zepp - 212.33.22.***	080218 @ 20:03:24
Wrong div not for NAIM, but for Arnette :) Impressive anyway, 140 frags :)

fog - 213.134.126.***	080218 @ 20:11:12
We just need more time to improve our teamplay and hopefully Rikey will be back next week to strengthten our lineup! I think NAIM will go for the title.

Rikoll - 80.203.45.***	080218 @ 22:23:33
Arnette was our choice for Quadrunning quite obviously and he played a monster match. But to be able to do that, we also need to have control on other parts of the map, and I think we did that well. I also think we belong in bronze cup, even though Arnette could play in a Gold cup team.

mushisan - 91.121.2.***	080218 @ 23:57:32
such good players shouldnt be allowed in bronze:\| at least he uses his own nick, thumbs up for that :)

Hem - 83.101.7.***	080219 @ 00:14:23
Good I hope you steamroll all the other bronze clans with your div1 player and they'll think whats the point of this?

apokalypze - 62.20.54.***	080219 @ 05:39:14
Don't hate on Naim. If anyone should be blamed it's the admins for making a bad call allowing Arnette in the Bronze Cup. Anyway, it was gg. I enjoyed playing the dm3.

Hagge - 83.254.128.***	080219 @ 06:21:00
I'm not sure NAIM would belong in silver, so bronze should do them good. Can understand the frustration though, I have met ssc when milton played there :E However, I think QK were a bit rusty and will only get better for every game.

fog - 81.216.34.***	080219 @ 09:35:39
Hagge: Some people are rusty, some are pretty new to 4on4 (including me). We have a lot to learn and we are improving in one or another way every game we play. And please, we are not whining about Arnette, cause I don't think they are unbeatable. We were missing some of our keyplayers, and some of us were a bit rusty as mentioned. Hopefully this is an exception, and we won't see more additions to clans with div 1-2 players. Nuff said.

soma - omg.hai.2.u	080219 @ 11:26:12
Why would we not allow Arnette in Bronze Cup? Please keep in mind that Arnette is not some div0 fuckhead who decided to join a Bronze Cup clan just because he thought it would be fun to own some worse players. He is playing in Naim to play with old clanmates and friends, the only active Norwegians left playing this game. Are we supposed to break up clans now and say "Okay, you're allowed to sign up, but without Arnette"? If Naim really "steamroll over all other clans", then sure, I'll admit that we underestimated the impact that Arnette would have on the clan. But personally, I still believe that Naim wouldn't stand a chance in Silver Cup (yet) and that what fog said is correct too. Naim can and will be beaten.

apokalypze - 62.20.54.***	080220 @ 04:52:57
Soma: I disagree. I took a quick look at the silver cup and taking into account how well Naim has managed this far (pracs included), I think they would do just fine in silver. I won't speculate whether they could be among the top tiers in that cup or not, but somewhere in the middle of the scoretable would be far from possible for them. After all, they have experienced players with good tp and also Norway's best dueler for quadrunner. Btw, whoever said Arne was a "div0 fuckhead"? I'm not mad at him. He's a nice guy. I'm just puzzled by the decision to allow a player of that calibre and his clan into a lower skilled division without doing any research whatsoever on their capacity first.

Drugs-Bunny - 80.202.40.***	080220 @ 05:32:19
so.... who has the e1m2 demo?

fog - 213.134.126.***	080220 @ 19:30:15
Drugs-bunny: The demo seems to have dissapeared from the server. We tried to download all demos after games, but only the dm3 NQR and dm3 pracc demo was availible unfortunately :S Antic might have taken demos I've heard, check with him.