| Horatio (213.113.172.31) |
2004-04-13 19:48:06 |
| gg |
| |
|
| fisto (195.22.92.178) |
2004-04-14 07:19:07 |
| hehe |
| |
|
| TuoppI (62.142.243.102) |
2004-04-18 21:28:39 |
| OJ OJ VITUN HELPPO! |
| |
|
| mooniz (193.229.87.254) |
2004-04-18 21:29:48 |
| gg nqr :) |
| |
|
| sexC (61.171.27.190) |
2004-04-19 00:13:07 |
| sigh @ fappers |
| |
|
| Hagge (212.181.115.254) |
2004-04-19 07:27:33 |
| gg fappers! strong performance! |
| |
|
| Max Rebo (62.181.254.15) |
2004-04-19 07:31:14 |
| Now what, how can it be W.O with a week more to play? |
| |
|
| Hagge (212.181.115.254) |
2004-04-19 08:15:47 |
| fappers didn't want to be in gold playoffs and decided to leave wo I guess! GG |
| |
|
| mooniz (193.229.87.254) |
2004-04-19 08:34:07 |
| Well its kinda pointless to start playing vs div1 clans after you lose half of your games in div2. Doesnt really motivate you to play games when you are first promised a silver playoff spot and then its taken away from you without asking anything.
And it really motivates to play vs AQ, if we had even won, we would have had to play vs SR.
Dont really see any point in div2 #7. vs div1 #1, but I guess nqr admins see a point in those kind of games.
Thats my long whine in short :) |
| |
|
| sexC (61.171.145.123) |
2004-04-19 09:08:30 |
| and whine it is |
| |
|
| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-04-19 10:01:26 |
| Seemed like a short whine in long to me :> |
| |
|
| supa (128.214.116.3) |
2004-04-19 10:07:43 |
| The second map was really close but AQ managed to win this time :-( |
| |
|
| EZ (217.209.103.16) |
2004-04-19 10:39:18 |
| Wal over in Gold playoffs? how fucking lame, noskill!!!!! |
| |
|
| dak (213.113.123.55) |
2004-04-19 11:54:16 |
| I think you have to understand where fappers are coming from here. They barely made it into the silver playoffs; 30 mins to go on the deadline and they reported the last game which brought em up from 11th to 7th. They were looking forward to having a good fight against the 8-10th div2 and top of div3 for the silver playoff crown. Then suddenly, just because some div1 team can't play, they're moved into the lowest ranking spot in gold playoffs. Of course they're disappointed, wtf would you be if you were moved from the best position in silver playoffs to the worst in gold playoffs? I'm not saying I agree with the WO - I never agree with WO's - but I can see where they're coming from. |
| |
|
| racersnigeln (81.228.236.233) |
2004-04-19 13:20:58 |
| one of the best games ever! btw, hagge and link sux ;( |
| |
|
| Hagge (217.210.145.76) |
2004-04-19 13:22:56 |
| well... it was really lame of divines not to play in playoffs... however it's just as lame by fappers not to play... they could've at least tried... Im pretty sure aq-fap would be a really close game. bg! |
| |
|
| supa (128.214.116.3) |
2004-04-19 13:42:50 |
| I am agreeing with the being lame part, particularly the bit where we got lifted to the gold playoffs. I think we should've played the game but on the other hand it barely makes any difference since I wouldn't have been in that team anyways. Mooniz is right anyways, even if we have won the game we would've faced SR next - so why waste perfectly good FAPPING time to play games that are doomed anyways :) |
| |
|
| supa (128.214.116.3) |
2004-04-19 14:12:21 |
| have won -> had won |
| |
|
| mate (157.24.107.187) |
2004-04-19 15:03:19 |
| walkover is our strongest map atm. doesn anyone have 24bit textures for walkover? plz msg me |
| |
|
| HangTime (212.140.173.250) |
2004-04-19 16:54:04 |
| mate: http://www.imgspot.com/uploads/walkover.jpg |
| |
|
| Max Rebo (213.64.162.221) |
2004-04-19 17:31:24 |
| I can't understand how you'd rather give WO than playing the freaking game. And what's with the "we're not gonna bother playing this round, because even if we win we will meet SR in the next round"? That's beyond fucked up, if every team had reasoned like you do, we could just have SR, FS and LA duke it out right now and skip all other games. |
| |
|
| mooniz (193.229.87.254) |
2004-04-19 17:37:13 |
| We are for a reason in div2, thats becouse we suck and we dont want to play vs div1 teams! And before the playoffs we were promised a silver playoffs spot with the 7th position we achieved with our nice deadline sprint! Admin team decided to fuck up our season and but a div2 #7 team with negative md and fd in gold playoffs. You dont see div3 #7 playing vs div2 #1 ? :) So we decided to fuck up the admin teams wicked decision as a payback for their ridicilous decisions this season.
Maybe the main reason for wo is that we were so fuckin happy with the silver position that seemed impossible for us for the last end of season. And then one night you come home and notice that its been taken away from you without a question... |
| |
|
| HangTime (213.208.111.197) |
2004-04-19 18:09:24 |
| While I can sympathise with your anger at changes in NQR structure (having felt the force of it myself...) you must realise that top20 clans in NQR go to gold playoffs and you are in the top20 active clans - in fact, before the season started it was stated as the top24 clans, which never should have been changed as it was a long time into the regular season IMO. NQR is a competitive league, you are duty bound to accept the tough games that comes with it. You can't expect to be able to get an easy ride just cos you are on the borderline between gold and silver standard - if you just want to "play for fun with no rapes" then pracs or a league like Ad Mortem is more suited to your requirements. Is a game vs Slackers really something you fear so much? What about all those clans who had to face cMF in Smackdown, who were a lot less skilled than Fappers?:) But, while I'm not sure if I agree with the idea of leaving WOs in playoff games (clans like that shouldn't be permitted in future seasons since they don't have any respect for the competitive structure of the league) it seems that NQR has once again "moved the goalposts" at a late stage of the season rather hastily without fully considering the consequences. I'm not sure quite why Divines game in the gold playoff wasn't just given as WO since it was they who left the league. Note this would have gone against my clan (we would have to play a qualifying game vs a div2 clan for finishing 11th not 10th) but I still think it would have worked out ok that way. |
| |
|
| HangTime (213.208.111.197) |
2004-04-19 18:10:30 |
| Just to clarify: "We are for a reason in div2, thats becouse we suck and we dont want to play vs div1 teams!" - you shouldn't have entered NQR in this case since with the playoff system, there was the possibility to play div1 clans *this was clear from start of season* unlike other changes that have been made. |
| |
|
| razor (217.209.67.2) |
2004-04-19 18:21:14 |
| strange decision to give WO, i agree with you HT |
| |
|
| mooniz (193.229.87.254) |
2004-04-19 18:41:12 |
| Well yeah I agree with most of what you are saying HT. Except I really dont think that we are borderline silver/gold playoffs, I think we are pretty far from deserving a gold playoff place. And we have had our shares of tough games since we lost already half of our games in div2 too. If we had played really well (like cn) then I would have no problem going to gold playoffs. But I really dont think if a clan loses half of its games already in div2 and ends up with negative frags&maps ratio deserves/needs to go into the gold playoffs.
And for the smackdown issue and SR game. I can say for my behalf that some of the smackdown games were pretty boring becouse of the skill difference, and I do feel FAP-SR game would have been one of those. Just a huge waste of time and for me a huge frustration, since Im a weird guy and I dont enjoy 300-5 qw rounds :)
And you are pretty right, ive lost most of my respect for this season of NQR. First avenger playing in two clans in same div, then haj&wigorf -> dutch hope approval and now this. But its just me, and still we got some nice playoffs game to come. For my anger cant be a part of it (silver playoffs i mean :D)
And also the admin team could have asked us if we want to play gold playoffs since divines dropped out. It was their decision, and this is ours. |
| |
|
| Vertigo (80.221.246.133) |
2004-04-19 18:49:09 |
| This wo makes FAPPERS look like a bunch of spoiled old stars who cant stand the idea of losing against a team which didnt win a single game in div1. AntiQuad has battled bravely in DIV1 although it clearly wasnt their level in the first place. They didnt whine about hard opponents, but played their games with class. Twelve defeats, but loads of respect! Too bad I cant say the same about FAPPERS. Ridiculous and pathetic move from them altogether. |
| |
|
| jkka (217.140.200.143) |
2004-04-19 18:54:36 |
| statement from a SAIPA-fan..mites mypa? |
| |
|
| jkka (217.140.200.143) |
2004-04-19 18:55:44 |
| and this was hum?r. |
| |
|
| fifi (80.222.181.253) |
2004-04-19 18:58:14 |
| always SAIPA-fans attacking JYP-fans... can't believe it has started here as well :/ |
| |
|
| jkka (217.140.200.143) |
2004-04-19 18:59:14 |
| and to keep this conversation on its right tracks.. suomi-ruotsi 5-0 \o/ |
| |
|
| mooniz (193.229.87.254) |
2004-04-19 19:05:26 |
| Poor JYP-fans.. thank god they can whine like no other!!! |
| |
|
| Max Rebo (213.64.162.221) |
2004-04-19 21:10:49 |
| Condensed a rambling post to:
Fifi, vore, jester, mooniz = play-off team in gold division. The team that played and lost vs chosen one(!) and SSC, thus lowering FAP 2-3 places is not (thereby eliminating Mooniz arguments on negative frags and mapdiff). Use team 1 and play the damned game. |
| |
|
| mooniz (193.229.87.254) |
2004-04-19 21:36:25 |
| jester has not had a stable internet almost for the whole season.. and it really wouldnt be fair to other people not to let them play? :) |
| |
|
| Max Rebo (213.64.162.221) |
2004-04-19 23:00:04 |
| Well, if the skillgap is so large within the clan that you will lose to the 1W-12L clan in one game and win vs BWL in the other, then they shouldn't play NQR. It's not like NQR is the only option to play 4on4 QW, play AM/prac until they're closer in skill to the better players. |
| |
|
| mooniz (193.229.87.254) |
2004-04-19 23:06:14 |
| well thats true if we had enough active players, but since we dont its better that all players can play so we can even get the games played and have 4 at the same time. |
| |
|
| Hagge (217.210.145.76) |
2004-04-20 13:48:51 |
| if mooniz had spent as much time in qw as in whining here the game would've already been played :< |
| |
|
| nle (80.212.33.172) |
2004-04-20 14:51:35 |
| and the same goes to MAX REBO on dm2! |
| |
|
| supa (80.186.73.160) |
2004-04-20 19:23:55 |
| I wouldn't have even wanted to play - I realize my skill-level, or lack of, and I do not want to interfere in games that could be won while playing with better team. Sadly that includes almost all of the games, heh. That being said, the decision has been made (and it was not a decision made by the whole clan I might add), and that's how it is. No point arguing anymore :-( |
| |
|
| supa (80.186.73.160) |
2004-04-20 19:27:40 |
| Oh and an idea for the NQR team to ponder! Now that we're out of the picture you could always move SSC in to the GOLD playoffs. Kr??test! |
| |
|
| Grass (81.197.18.185) |
2004-04-21 00:25:59 |
| hv hv, AQ is sot hot! harvester^aq owns u all! <3 |
| |
|
| jkka (62.142.132.88) |
2004-04-21 06:15:20 |
| its all 13ms now - BRING IT ON BABY! |
| |
|
| Vertigo (80.221.246.133) |
2004-04-21 07:59:03 |
| The only reasonable solution for FAPPERS poor situation is to place them to division five next season, so they wouldn't have to be afraid of horrifying losses! Every opponent would be so below even supa's skill level that magnificient 500-0 victories would occurr. The best part of this idea is that we all would have the pleasure to see FAPPERS playing all of their matches and NQR's general level would increase giantly! |
| |
|
| mooniz (193.229.87.254) |
2004-04-21 12:31:16 |
| Sounds good!!! Would be even funnier if we could make div6 and that would be FAPPERS vs Vertigo! Of course Vertigo wouldnt be allowed to use +fire or any movement buttons since that would risk FAPPERS victory! |
| |
|
| Hagge (217.210.145.76) |
2004-04-21 17:18:59 |
| Vertigo is my idol! :( |
| |
|
| jkka (62.142.132.88) |
2004-04-21 20:52:39 |
| LOL ROTFL RALF LOTR :D:D:DDD |
| |
|
| Michael (194.89.25.14) |
2004-04-22 14:25:58 |
| Hagge (217.210.145.76) 2004-04-12 11:15:38
extremly lame with 3on3 then :<
mooniz (80.186.113.216) 2004-04-12 13:26:14
even lamer not to play a game! and it was also fappers only chance to get to playoffs.. getting 6 points from bwl&fired was the only way we could get into the PLAYOFFS!
|
| |
|
| mooniz (80.186.113.216) |
2004-04-22 20:22:57 |
| Yea and nqr crew decided to be as lame when they moved us from our top seed silver playoffs position to play vs aq/sr and other nice clans, and didnt even bother to ask us. Instead of this WO they could have had the divines game WO'd. So we are just as lame as them and not playing! harhaR!
btw. Hagge is my idol! So vertigo is my idol's idol! |
| |
|
| Hagge (217.210.145.76) |
2004-04-23 13:00:32 |
| omg 8[ |
| |
|
