| Horatio (213.113.172.227) |
2004-02-06 08:57:22 |
| gg |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-22 21:44:23 |
| GG Paradoks, too bad you decided to measure the size of balls and power, and ban mrlame from the server on decider map. You are truly a fucking cunt, and next time you ask me why I dont speak much to you at a QHLAN, you now know the reason why. You are a fucking retard. Best wishes from Link. |
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| Angua (212.181.55.76) |
2004-02-22 21:45:28 |
| I second that. |
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| mrlame (213.101.120.99) |
2004-02-22 22:09:25 |
| calm down kids this is only a game i had a GOOD laugh this evening atleast beacuse now i now what paradoks goes for first trashtalking me and when i kick him from the server u gets a ban :)) |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-22 22:23:48 |
| You cant kick the all'o'mighty nqr admin! CRIME DOES NOT PAY! |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-23 01:08:40 |
| What happened? |
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| Max Rebo (213.64.160.172) |
2004-02-23 01:18:58 |
| MrLame kicked "NQR-CAM-SPEC" from the game a few times during the pauses, "NQR-CAM-SPEC" was Paradoks who decided to retaliate with a ban of Lame just before the start of the final map. GG. |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-23 01:24:18 |
| That's unacceptable, BGSR have potentially lost points because of an admin's ABUSE OF POWER. The final map should be played and imo the admin team should consider Paradoks' position. That's fucking disgraceful. |
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| troma (193.11.233.13) |
2004-02-23 01:51:24 |
| haha, wtf is this 4 real ? |
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| ParadokS (81.19.254.107) |
2004-02-23 02:03:49 |
| what abuse? =) mrlame used get2net admin code to kick me (nqr admin/iop qizmo cam) 5+ times during game. I told him "stop kick me or i will ban you". After that they played 2nd round, but during prewar for 3rd map he persisted on kicking me. I guess he thought i wasn't serious.
Hey, if i want to play at Z, i dont steal Z admin code and kick luny (z admin) 5 times, despite direct warning i kick him again... during NQR game. Hey it's his choice if he want a perfectly legit ban. i was pretty tired of being kicked from server, and im sure observers on the qizmo were too. |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-23 02:09:06 |
| kick him and change the admin code |
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| Janozh (213.112.181.188) |
2004-02-23 02:18:14 |
| I understand both sides, but its an nqr game, it has to be played at all costs! |
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| ParadokS (81.19.254.107) |
2004-02-23 02:22:46 |
| in retro that would have been the most peacefull sollution. Although it should not have been neccessary in the first place. I was just mad from all the kicking that i shot first and thought after =) not that i dont think it was totally justifiable. |
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| derv (80.46.221.88) |
2004-02-23 02:28:16 |
| omg wtf!?! yo bitches need to chil ya'll |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 02:35:00 |
| "I told him "stop kick me or i will ban you". " That is were you fucked up, you wish to measure who got the biggest balls, mrlame or paradoks! Instead of just STFU and BE ONLY A CAM! But you couldn't , could you? You just HAD TO SHOW EVERYONE WHO IS THE BOSS, RITE? You fucking moron, why did you have to INTERFERE in our game??? NQR league games DO NOT NEED SUPERVISION OF AN NQR ADMIN, WE CAN HANDLE THE GAME OURSELVES, SO YOU COULD JUST SIT BACK AND STFU???? No you could not...you had to play daddy again. Cant you see all the shit you are shoveling????? |
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| tranq (81.240.26.223) |
2004-02-23 02:47:20 |
| quakeworld is a "feuilleton", I stop watching TV |
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| riker (81.226.74.163) |
2004-02-23 02:52:49 |
| wow im amazed, just when i thought this league couldnt get any lamer. thx para for a refreshing wind of lameness to us quakers. GG nqr allowing para as admin |
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| ztorm (81.225.34.16) |
2004-02-23 03:02:50 |
| Well the most mature thing must?ve been when paradoks removed mrlame from nqr :P (i can see that mrlame is back in our squad) , everyone hail god all mighty! gg fs. |
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| mrlame (213.101.118.97) |
2004-02-23 03:08:04 |
| the best part most been after paradoks banned me that he gave FS wo since we could not field 4 players :))) |
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| kl0wn (200.204.38.35) |
2004-02-23 03:10:26 |
| hahaha, what a joke, why the hell did paradoks have to deal with ADMIN-CODE-STEALERS right before the decider? |
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| polekiller (80.55.154.146) |
2004-02-23 03:17:50 |
| I think para shouldn't be admin of anything after this, he should know it's not his job interrupting other clans' games for personal reasons, maybe because of the prac-games uploaded to chtv (gtg against sr with lame in gtg) where they get to taste some lead. Or maybe, the dictator/nazi-rumours are true, you voted for Pia Kj?rsgaard or what para? |
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| Angua (212.181.55.76) |
2004-02-23 03:22:33 |
| "I was just mad from all the kicking that i shot first and thought after =) not that i dont think it was totally justifiable."
Well, after you had come to insight that you'd done wrong, why didn't you unban him? instead you just sat there grinning and yellin' "wo" and such... very mature indeed... Or, perhaps you're just a slow thinker, and didn't think in about 10-15 minutes, bg para. |
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| Firehoppir (217.208.10.191) |
2004-02-23 03:27:24 |
| this is lamer than scoring 1point on kenya.bsp |
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| Angua (212.181.55.76) |
2004-02-23 03:29:22 |
| You bet it is |
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| slime (213.66.135.170) |
2004-02-23 03:31:57 |
| And bgsr hasnt stolen the admin code either. Get2net is just using an old version of ktpro which contains a bug which let everyone get admin/judge WITHOUT the code |
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| manu (130.235.174.146) |
2004-02-23 03:38:21 |
| must be good to be loved by the scene para...
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| ZkilfinG (217.215.198.51) |
2004-02-23 03:38:57 |
| What exactly did paradoks say that made mrlame kick him in the first place? This situation was very poorly handled by both sides imo. But Paradoks draws the shortest straw since an admin should be neutral and look above all dispute, especially if personaly involved. It's not easy to do, but that's why not everybody should be admins either. |
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| Angua (212.181.55.76) |
2004-02-23 03:42:42 |
| paradoks simply trashtalked mrlame, about him sucking, kinda... don't remember the exact words. I wouldn't have liked it right before the game should start either nor would paradoks... I guess. |
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| maun (130.235.174.146) |
2004-02-23 03:46:56 |
| when qw-scene turns on para, he can allways fall back on his rich irl life
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| Goljat (80.221.43.154) |
2004-02-23 03:47:11 |
| I have experience of how to mess up with admin (sd3) and i think its better not to listen both sides. It's not first time that mrlame attack against paradoks i have to say that. |
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| forsberg (80.199.157.54) |
2004-02-23 03:47:22 |
| I agree completely zkilfing, I have no idea what went on, but an "Admin" should work very professional, he cannot diss a team, fgs. This is a joke paradoks :/ |
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| Ez (195.149.46.214) |
2004-02-23 03:48:42 |
| The biggest question is "what should be done now?" Paradok?s impartiality as an admin has been called into serious question. To say that "as an admin I had a right to be there" is not really the point in a league that does not really require them. Past history should have dictated that a neutral admin could have watched and set up a qiz cam. His presence there was an obvious cause of antagonism to bgsr. If that was by design, then that?s really quite pitiful, if not then he should have just left and asked someone else to have set up a cam that he could have joined to watch the game. |
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| Goljat (80.221.43.154) |
2004-02-23 03:50:02 |
| ez: what i have heard they didnt know how to decide who eliminate first map of decider map list |
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| sexC (61.152.211.58) |
2004-02-23 03:50:38 |
| just play the decider map anyway...I'm sure para has calmed down by now :) |
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| panic (217.210.241.107) |
2004-02-23 03:51:10 |
| haha detta ?ger ju 8)) qw kommer inte d? f?r att folk slutar spela utan f?r att alla ?r s? j?vla efterblivna :) gg |
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| forsberg (80.199.157.54) |
2004-02-23 03:53:11 |
| Goljat, defending paradoks here is a lost battle man. The second an Admin comments on the skill of any of the teams, he has lost. Admin is there to "unpartly ?" supervise the game, and make sure everything runs according to rules. That a player is kicking a CAM who comments (ironic or insiderfun or whatever) doesnt matter. If para was there as ADMIN he shouldnt talk bs (REGARDLESS), if para is there as a cam, he can get kicked, why not ? |
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| Angua (212.181.55.76) |
2004-02-23 03:53:19 |
| bgsr Goljat, there were two sides... everyone that played(and specced as well), versus paradoks, that's it... do you think firing squad feel content by winning over us because of paradoks banning one of our players and forcing a WO? The point is, why the hell is an admin trashtalking our starplayer before the game? |
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| Goljat (80.221.43.154) |
2004-02-23 03:53:47 |
| i have to say there was really something big, because fs was behind paradoks at least what i followed irc talking. I can trust fs anyway. |
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| dronk (62.3.132.195) |
2004-02-23 03:57:22 |
| whine whine. why not finish the game on another server then? and why kick para in the first place? strange to hear that some people "should be neutral and look above all dispute" and some apparantely doesn't have to. kiddy style on both sides of this dispute imo. |
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| hlt (80.186.197.111) |
2004-02-23 03:57:35 |
| a joke? |
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| Goljat (80.221.43.154) |
2004-02-23 03:58:23 |
| angua, i have got before game in semifinal game from head admin that YOU GONNA LOOSE NO MATTER WHAT, but still i didnt kick him out at server, but can you tell me why you started to kick out him? or why you didnt stop then when admin gave you a warning? mqwcl and fuhq has ignore feature, next time use that. |
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| Angua (212.181.55.76) |
2004-02-23 03:58:48 |
| dronk, would you like an admin trashtalking you right before the countdown starts? That's why |
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| Angua (212.181.55.76) |
2004-02-23 04:01:25 |
| Goljat, Firstly, you seems to have gotten something wrong here, I didn't kick anyone, I didn't get any warning, and I didn't get banned... K? Secondly, I don't care what _you_ would've done nor what _you_ have done. And still the point is, why the hell is an admin trashtalking our starplayer before the game? |
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| mrlame (213.101.118.97) |
2004-02-23 04:04:34 |
| [21:23:37] <fs`razor> i think everyone acts like retards
[21:23:39] <fs`razor> i just get tired
[21:23:39] <fs`razor> :)
[21:23:49] <crti> yeah
[21:23:49] <hf|drejfus> para always do, he cant handle power
[21:23:53] <hf|drejfus> :)
[21:24:10] <hf|drejfus> his a fuckup and always will be imo
[21:24:10] <crti> he cannot even handle himself with all that weight
[21:24:22] <hf|drejfus> :)) |
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| mrlame (213.101.118.97) |
2004-02-23 04:05:14 |
| ill rest my case goljat |
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| forsberg (80.199.157.54) |
2004-02-23 04:05:50 |
| Golle what someone told you years ago and scared your soul for life, francly doesnt mean 2 cents in this matter. Dronk if Paradoks was there as admin, he should completely stfu and ONLY make sure the game runs correct and after rules. If Paradoks is there as cam, he can talk bs if he wants, and he can get kicked from server if someone doesnt want him there. EOD. |
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| Goljat (80.221.43.154) |
2004-02-23 04:07:03 |
| someone upload demos |
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| Angua (212.181.55.76) |
2004-02-23 04:08:56 |
| I could upload them to chtv |
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| mrlame (213.101.118.97) |
2004-02-23 04:09:13 |
| 2 hot 4 nqr can't!!! =) |
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| riker (81.226.74.163) |
2004-02-23 04:10:43 |
| NQR7 Clan : banned 4 life
players so far: riker, mrlame, |
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| Link (80.213.39.240) |
2004-02-23 04:11:03 |
| Ok, since there are some confused ppl here (Goljat included), this is what happend. It is 1-1, and decider map "discussion" begins. As always some ppl never read rules, that we have to live with, so a little yadadada and saying the f-word (nice reppie) etc was of course present, not a big deal, just some old fashioned laming. The annyoing CAM, that was only a CAM (I didnt know it was Para until after lame was banned), starts to comment, and interferes with our game. Lame kicks the CAM, the CAM returns and says: IF YOU KICK ME AGAIN I WILL BAN YOU. This particular comment, is IMO on of the lamest there is :) Its like: "OMG I GOT STEPPED ON I AM GONNA STEP ON YOU TOO! FFS!" What the CAM SHOULD have done, was just reconnect...and...SHUT THE FUCK UP! Everyone knows lame and para are not best pals, but para, the NQR ADMIN, feels he also must act lame, and start a little "personal vendetta" with lame. You have to ask yourself: was that very smart? Anyway, THE POINT IS, after all, we finally agreed on decider map, THE CLANS MANAGED TO FINALLY GET READY FOR THE DECIDER MAP! But then our best dm2 player, lame, was banned from the server, by someone was a little too proud. So then I HAVE TO JOIN (I was speccing), or its WO to FS. I could of course joined, BUT DO WE ACCPET THIS SHIT? of course not. I agree that the swedes (not me ofc! :> ) in BGSR acted a little lame, coz they didnt read the rules, nor payed attention to the random-bot who said BGSR to drop one map first, but what can you expect from elite qw players from sweden? We are all used to this little usual whine, so be it :) So we drop cmt4 (lol FS you think we let you play CMT4? LOOOOOL), and FS dont wanna play e2m2tdm, so dm2 is decider. We are all ready to go, specs are waiting for final battle, and we, BGSR, had high hopes for 3 points. But lame was banned. I dont think I missed anything important now. But if I did, plz tell me! |
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| Goljat (80.221.43.154) |
2004-02-23 04:16:14 |
| so you dropped ot and fs deserved wo. |
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| Goljat (80.221.43.154) |
2004-02-23 04:18:46 |
| just kidding, i know paradoks is not the best one to keep his mouth quiet, but he is the only one who makes news updates and league get pretty inactive if admins are inactive too. Like you link, if he is not admin why he should make news update then. |
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| error (213.114.96.108) |
2004-02-23 04:18:51 |
| This situation should not have been able to happen if both parties had acted maturely. However appointed admins are, and should be held to a higher standard.
Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrups absolutely -Lord Acton |
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| slabby (217.215.116.95) |
2004-02-23 04:21:22 |
| hahahahahaha lol para, why did you give wo??? i think they should play that last map some other day without sr spec |
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| Angua (212.181.55.76) |
2004-02-23 04:22:12 |
| What the fact that paradoks makes news updates have to do with anything Goljat? Have you finally understood that the almighty paradoks did wrong ? Or why do you otherwise bring this shit up? |
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| slabby (217.215.116.95) |
2004-02-23 04:22:55 |
| and loljat plzzzzzzzzzzzz, cant you see that this game became fucked up and that fs shouldnt have wo |
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| Link (80.213.39.240) |
2004-02-23 04:22:55 |
| Goljat, plz :D I know Para does good things for the community, and he deserves credit for that. But if he fucks up, like now, he either say: I AM SORRY! At least I can forgive that (not sure some swedes will :> ). But if he still want to deabate on this, a lost cause as I see it, then he just strangles himself even more. Everyone can fuck up, even me (christ, look what I did to NQR, cmt4 is the 4th map!!!!! GOD FORGIVE ME!). |
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| mrlame (213.101.118.97) |
2004-02-23 04:23:07 |
| ill agree that paradoks is a great on doing news on most parts some news are lol like this one sweden - finland game
Last night QuakeWorld Nations Cup was decided in the finals between Sweden and Finland.
Finland won 2-0 ... and it was GG. Champ and hib really showed how to play death32c. Sweden was really pathetic and without any chances.
is that a kind of person u are looking for in an admin? maybe better stay on coverage? :) |
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| forsberg (80.199.157.54) |
2004-02-23 04:23:24 |
| Error is right. |
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| Goljat (80.221.43.154) |
2004-02-23 04:24:20 |
| hey mrlame i edited that :) and paradoks wanted to change that |
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| Goljat (80.221.43.154) |
2004-02-23 04:24:52 |
| back to normal |
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| error (213.114.96.108) |
2004-02-23 04:28:48 |
| Goljat I want to make clear that I am not criticing Paradokses work on nqr and qw.nu. That work is splendid and I am extremely thankful for his effort for the community. In fact I think he is almost overworking himself.
Ps. I would love to post news on quakeworld.nu and nqr so if there is an open spot I would be more than happy to able to contribute to our fun and lovely community. |
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| Goljat (80.221.43.154) |
2004-02-23 04:31:18 |
| error you can make news to qw.nu i think or at least own column. You have to talk to jezaja or paradoks :E |
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| error (213.114.96.108) |
2004-02-23 04:32:16 |
| lol goljat. |
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| slabby (217.215.116.95) |
2004-02-23 04:34:12 |
| paradoks i must agree with mrlame regarding the post on qw.nu, www.quakeworld.nu = www.slackers.nu ??? |
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| Goljat (80.221.43.154) |
2004-02-23 04:59:55 |
| slabby do you want to make news to qw.nu it seems like you are not happy :E |
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| reppie (212.178.7.60) |
2004-02-23 09:53:22 |
| we offered to play another day/time, but mrlame refused, and we couldnt continue yesterday because we couldnt play in scandinavia, they couldnt play in nl/de/uk/be and boomtown was down .. and we were fed up with all their bullshit :) |
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| Babel (193.10.221.171) |
2004-02-23 10:50:20 |
| 1. I havent seen the match or the demos so my fact is only these forum posts.
2. It was lame of mrlame to kick the cam 5times.
3. It was lame of para to ban mrlame.
4. It was lame of Link when he refused to play instead of mrlame. I mean, if Link think its fun to play qw, why did he refuse to play?
5. So to end this, you three fuckups, let shake your hands, play the last map and stfu. ok? |
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| ParadokS (81.19.254.107) |
2004-02-23 10:58:49 |
| Link: I was already kicked on first map, when locktar/mrlame had to showoff that they had admin code/could exlpoit a bug. I didn't mind at first, but when he kept kicking me, despite i gave him warning it became kinda tiresome. About decider. when we first reached decider i had already been kicked 5 times AND given him a warning. both teams were whinnig at each other for who should throw first map and i just did as rules say. cmd rnd bgsr fs and bgsr came out. so i asked bgsr to choosebut they refused. Some more whine came like "fs you chose first.. noon u choose", and fs back "hello morons, we already did the vote.. c'mon now vote", and i said also "bgsr make your vote!" then i got another kick from mrlame, i guess he thought i wasn't serious about baning him. What happend right after? I didn't give wo to any team, link was spectating but they refused to play with him, and refused to re-schedule or play on another server. everyone just left including me.
Here is log with icce later:
[22:22] <Ic_food> well..I think we doit this way..we do not confirme that game..they play last map...WO doesent feels to good imo
[22:26] <]SR[ParadokS> well that must be up to you and those 2 clans then
[22:27] <Icce> ye..i'll talk to fs and bg
[22:46] <Icce> mrlame said they give wo since g2n is the only server were both teams have equal pings. || And about mrlame being removed from NQR roster i dont know. my bet is he probably removed himself. As it is now both teams can at any point decide to play an unplayed game/map before season ends. However to avoid difficult walkover situations, walkovers must be submitted before each weekgame deadline. |
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| ParadokS (81.19.254.107) |
2004-02-23 11:15:10 |
| Yes, I can also admit it was pretty over-the-edge to ban him, and as admin it is most appropriate to be complete impartial and disregard any insults. ALthough I had every right to be on the server. As server admin, as NQR admin, and as qizmo cam for all 3 IoP qizmos. It is a little hard to put "ignore" on kicks. I guess the whole incident kinda escalated, which i am sorry for on fs/bgsr behalf that they couldnt finnish their game on site. You can say I walk in small shoes and acting with petty and despite, but i wont excuse for banning someone after exploiting a bug to kick me 5 times, getting a warning and continuing to do so. IMO that must be his own problem then - i am quite sure he was aware of the consequences, just didn't think i would do it, cause it was middle of nqr match, and he knew how much shit i would get for it. |
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| sexC (61.171.26.20) |
2004-02-23 12:22:21 |
| just play the decider again ffs...if mrlame is too skitzy too play it again...well bad luck then? after all there are always two sides to an argument and in this case it is pretty clear that there is no one person to blaim. it is also understandable that link didn't join the game as bgsr actually had a chance of getting 3 points with mrlame in the game (sorry link :) ). heh this might be a bit off topic but yer seeing that someone mentioned it...the swe-fin game report on quakeworld.nu was indeed very biased and did not mention the fact that swe was lacking several key players...but as I said off topic :) |
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| ZkilfinG (217.215.198.51) |
2004-02-23 12:29:02 |
| Goljat (and others) meant that mrlame should have ignored, not you paradoks. I agree with Babel though. Everybody involved has fucked up quite a lot, not just those three, but people flaming/defending/arguing etc etc have all fucked up in various degrees, I can probably include myself as well. Lets just try to get past this and move on. |
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| Purity (129.125.102.100) |
2004-02-23 12:46:16 |
| "i was pretty tired of being kicked from server, and im sure observers on the qizmo were too." - Paradoks. The best solution is then banning him of course, better not being kicked from the server and no game than have a 90% watch of the game ;) gg |
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| blixem (213.84.26.40) |
2004-02-23 13:06:25 |
| ahhh they missed me!! |
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| Hagge (217.210.145.76) |
2004-02-23 13:51:54 |
| you all are big mistakes.. none of you should?ve been borned! fu |
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| reppie (217.122.224.185) |
2004-02-23 14:12:58 |
| yeah it got kinda out of hand i suppose, but the whole match started lame as well :)
we couldnt play with blixem, so we asked BGSR to reschedule to monday, which they agreed on .. then a few mins later link said they actually wanted to play sunday and that it was ok if blix didnt play since they wouldnt field their best player (mrlame) either .. so after some talking/time we agreed we'd play. and ofcourse mrlame joins the game and is going to play. then the ping is lame, we have one with 70 with 80-100 in fights and they all got pretty good pings .. so we do sv_minping 42, still sucks, mrlame pings up to 70 t make it fair, finally it all seems ok! But then, during the game, mrlame drops en returns with a good 42ping, suprise?!?!?! We got tired of all the whining so we just played 2 maps, then we had to decide the decider (meanwhile paradoks has been kicked like 3-4 times), and we did a random bgsr fs to decide who should discard first. BGSR came out, but they didnt want to discard first (??). then the nqr-admin (paradoks..) interferes (again:) and says they should pick first and then he gets kicked again .. and then he bans mrlame. So then they have 3 players and one speccing, and since started this came agreeing on mrlame not playing i dont see why link shouldnt play :) Anyway, then we went to IRC and i talked to mrlame, we couldnt think of a good server to play on anymore so i asked to reschedule it to another day .. which he refused. i think that covers it all :) |
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| razor (217.209.67.184) |
2004-02-23 14:22:17 |
| well i just think some people need to think over seriously to take a course in solving problems... this started from absolutetly NOTHING at all... i mean the trashtalk? tell the exact words.. i didnt hear any trash at all... well all from start this game sucked ass and was boring to play from various reasons...
and the only ones making this wo happen imo was bgsr... |
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| Apollyon (62.206.113.178) |
2004-02-23 14:43:53 |
| you are all newbies... |
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| hib (212.149.248.127) |
2004-02-23 14:44:41 |
| mrlame had that one coming.
reppie - we offered to play another day/time, but mrlame refused, and we couldnt continue yesterday because we couldnt play in scandinavia, they couldnt play in nl/de/uk/be and boomtown was down .. and we were fed up with all their bullshit :)
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| sANDYMAn (81.226.57.166) |
2004-02-23 15:06:17 |
| OJOJ VITTUN HELPO!!! |
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| Link (80.213.39.240) |
2004-02-23 15:37:30 |
| To all you MORONS who still defend Paradoks: you think it is ok for an NQR admin to interfere, break inn, and tell us how little kids we are, coz we cant handle things ourselves? You dont think we could handle it? We did handle it, sure, after some whine and some ppl not reading rules etc. But is this NEW to you? When I invited Paradoks to be DUELMANIA admin, he didnt want to read the rules, he didnt understand my explanation either, calls me a jerk, and kicks me out of the channel. gg. We took care of it, we had decided what map to play! Para says: "I was already kicked on first map, when locktar/mrlame had to showoff that they had admin code/could exlpoit a bug". OH, MRLAME HAD TO SHOW OFF! AND WHAT ABOUT YOU DAVID THE DANE? DID YOU HAVE TO SHOW OFF? DID YOU HAVE TO SHOW EVERYONE WHO IS THE BOSS? O M F G ! YOU HAD BEEN KICKED 5 TIMES??? THEN MAYBE IT WAS ABOUT TIME TO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!, OR DID YOU NOT TAKE THE FUCKING HINT? WHY DID YOU KEEP ON INTERFERING FFS??? WHY COULD YOU NOT JUST BE A FUCKING CAM?????????????? I GUESS NOT! YOU ARE PARADOKS THE ALMIGTHY! NO ONE TELLS YOU TO STFU! OR WHAT TO DO! NO ONE! cmt1B! cmt5B! GREAT! Para says: "I didn't give wo to any team, link was spectating but they refused to play with him". HELLO PARADOKS, AND HELLO PPL: NO ONE BUT BGSR DECIDEDS WHAT BGSR PLAYERS THAT ARE GONNA PLAY. YOU SEE PARADOKS, NOT EVEN YOU CAN DECIDE WHAT PLAYERS WE WANT TO FIELD! OMG WHAT A SHOCKER, YOU DONT HAVE THE POWER TO TELL US WHAT PLAYERS WE SHOULD PLAY WITH! CAN YOU LIVE WITH THAT????? A final word to Para: WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? To Reppie: Yes Rep, it was lame of mrlame to say he was not playing, but for some reason, El Hefe was suddenly idling, and we were only 3 ppl. So what? Why do you sign up more than 4 players to your rooster? OMG ZIDANDE IS INJURED! PLZ RESCHEDULE ALL REAL MADRID GAMES! Lame of you to not wanna play Rep, just coz one of your players cant play, especially since we scheduled this game in good time. So plz dont tell us that WE are lame. I didnt think that FS was as lame as HGC, but you sure came close! And Hib, you drunk Fin, you think we felt like playing last decider map on another day after all this shit? What is the fucking point, the game was already destroyed, who cares? So we give WO to FS, who cares? THIS IS NOT THE FUCKING POINT! This is the point: Mrlame tells Para/CAM to fuck off and not interfere. CAM/Para does not accpet this AND HE INTERFERES! On top of that, he starts to COMMAND Mrlame what he is allowed to do. SO IT IS OK FOR PARA TO TELL MRLAME WHAT TO DO, BUT IT IS NOT OK FOR MRLAME TO TELL PARA WHAT TO DO? AND WHO WINS????? THE ALMIGHTY ADMIN WHO DONT TAKE SHIT FROM NOONE! HE RULES! Christ ppl, plz wake up from your parainfected hypersleep...the smell aint good :| It fucking stinks... |
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| fat guy (217.88.143.70) |
2004-02-23 15:53:52 |
| http://130.89.164.211/pics/this_thread_rox.jpg |
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| panic (217.210.241.107) |
2004-02-23 16:18:33 |
| hahaah link din skadade fan 8) hur orkar du sitta o skriva allt skit 8) |
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| Link (80.213.39.240) |
2004-02-23 16:25:01 |
| Som ja sa til dej i natt Panic, n?r jag blir arg, so blir ja kreativ. Para ger mej massor av energi. |
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| iBh|123 (217.234.182.55) |
2004-02-23 16:25:06 |
| Well Link since you are referring to football, Eric Cantona got banned for nine months, only for kicking a spectator too: http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/27/newsid_2506000/2506237.stm
So abusive behavior, also against spectators that misbehaved before, can get you banned from leagues.
"Why do you sign up more than 4 players to your rooster? OMG ZIDANDE IS INJURED! PLZ RESCHEDULE ALL REAL MADRID GAMES! Lame of you to not wanna play Rep" - well why not play without mrlame then? Would Real Madrid say "OMG ZIDANE GOT A RED CARD AND CAN'T PLAY FOR THE REST OF THE MATCH, WE GOTTA GIVE UP AND LEAVE THE PITCH!"? In fact, unlike for a red card in football, in QW you have the chance to have another player join for the banned one. Lame of you to not wanna play Link. |
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| Apollyon (62.206.113.178) |
2004-02-23 16:25:33 |
| Wasnt the "democracy doesnt work in quake" saying coined by a certain norwegian. Anyway, thanks for tgis threa. Finally something interesting is happening in div1. |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-23 16:30:58 |
| er so link, you're saying that it's lame that FS don't want to play cos they didn't have blixem.... but it's totally different that you don't want to play cos you don't have mr lame? you're completely contradicting yourself. |
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| Link (80.213.39.240) |
2004-02-23 16:33:35 |
| 123: Very good comparison! You totally owned me! WTF has the mrlame ban or a red card ANYTHING TO DO AT ALL with the fact that FS didnt want to play IN THE FIRST PLACE coz they didnt have their best lineup? Plz explain, I dont fucking get it. Apollyon; it depends on the dictatorship :) |
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| Link (80.213.39.240) |
2004-02-23 16:35:57 |
| GAZ: plz grow a brain, you are not getting the FUCKING POINT. Should we accept NQR admins like this? If you think so, yes, then I should played. BUT IS THAT THE POINT? Plz go own yourself at some other url. |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-23 16:39:10 |
| How old are you Link? You're a grown man and yet you talk like a 14 year old in the playground. I made what I thought was a perceptive observation on your argument and you just respond with this torrent of swearing and abuse. I play CS as well so I am used to this kind of behaviour but it really doesn't help your argument. |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-23 16:40:28 |
| Anyway I already said that I don't think we should accept NQR admins like this. I also think that you can't say "FS are lame because they didn't want to play without strong lineup" and then say that paradoks can't say who plays for BGSR.... that's right he can't. And you can't say who plays for FS. |
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| apokalypze (213.114.8.69) |
2004-02-23 16:41:47 |
| "OBEY THE RULES" (c)ParadokS, that?s probably Angua?s favorite phrase atm. 8)
Btw, it?s not impossible that this match-thread might just beat the gtg vs fired-thread, started off by dakke. |
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| dak (213.113.123.12) |
2004-02-23 16:55:29 |
| Och folk tycker jag borde h?lla k?ft :| |
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| andy (80.132.183.157) |
2004-02-23 17:04:21 |
| Para has basically acted in the worst possible way. He tried to have an impact on a game, he wasn't adminning. He insulted one of the players (or so I was told). He abused his power as server master or whatever. But most importantly, he fucked up a league game, which he is responsible for! I can partly understand him, everyone can go nuts once in a while but the trick is not to let that effect your "adminning". As an admin, you just have a responsibility. You must not insult players or laugh at someone's skill, never ever. You have to treat players differently, to be accepted as an admin or an authority. Personal foes, hatred towards other clans is just wrong if shown by an admin. I agree, that MANY players also cause trouble and insult you (trust me, I know that ;) and you can't do much about it. It's not really a pleasure but if one handles such situations well, you gain respect from others and that is worth a lot, too. Everyone makes mistakes and that's OK. In my admin "career" I also made one, Apo did, Ego did...no-one's perfect. What happened here was shit, but one shouldn't forget that he didn't do it from out of nowhere, the reaction was just completely over the top and I guess it will never happen again. |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-23 17:09:04 |
| andy is right. andy is always right. ANDY IS NEVER WRONG. heil andy. |
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| ParadokS (81.19.254.107) |
2004-02-23 17:11:55 |
| the personal insults i can take, i can even put him on ignore. But as i said before, it's hard to ignore being kicked from the server constantly, by a player who exploited a bug in the server to gain admin rights (although without rcon code he couldn't do much besides kicking me). After a direct warning to STOP KICKING ME, he decided he would disregard that and go on about his business and continue to kick me. I can't see why i should stand for that. Yes i learned a lesson not to get into a similar situation in the future and the situation could havebeen handled in 20 diffrent better ways. But i still dont regret making the choice i did at the time. |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 17:15:52 |
| You forgot to say that I also make mistakes, by acting like a 14 year old CS player (c) gaz, when posting lame comments on this thread. For that I am sorry to whomever I offended! But I got a problem shutting the fuck up when ppl come with retarded views and opinions when they even was not there, or trying to defend such an act by bringing up even more retarded off-topic discussions. Sigh... |
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| Ego (195.255.73.115) |
2004-02-23 17:16:54 |
| only thing in my world that beats "authority-figures" who abuse their "powers" is rabid anti-authority figures who constantly percieve themselves as being fucked over by the aforementioned. and i agree with apollyon - this is the only interesting thing so far to come out of division 1 this season, maybe there's little use in setting up competitions for top-clans anymore since everyone affiliated with the "top" has managed to grow such inflated EGOS ? |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 17:17:42 |
| FFS Para, have you not learned ANYTHING yet???? "But as i said before, it's hard to ignore being kicked from the server constantly" ASK YOURSELF THIS: WHY DID YOU CONSTANTLY GET KICKED? ARE WE LEARNING YET? |
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| ztorm (81.225.34.16) |
2004-02-23 17:19:18 |
| Gaz: I see your point of view, But (always a but) we didnt give them the wo cos mrlame wasnt playing , we gave it becaus we thought it was very lame for an adming to remove one of our players from a nqr game. We do not accept that, end of story. And Fs for scheduling a game 2 weeks before and when we are supposed to play they say. "blixm isnt here" and they still got 4 to play ? a bit diffrence no ? |
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| dronk (213.113.129.96) |
2004-02-23 17:27:51 |
| "To all you MORONS who still defend Paradoks: you think it is ok for an NQR admin to interfere, break inn, and tell us how little kids we are, coz we cant handle things ourselves? well that your little kids is pretty obvious now isn't it? (despite your actual age) did you know that lameness multplies with age to give "absolute lameness"? that figure is ending up somewhere around a couple of googolplexes for you link. :/
and i actually think almost anyone here would use their banning powers if some lame-ass went on kicking them over and over. who throws the first stone? |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 17:28:02 |
| Well Ztorm, he didnt understand that did he? That's why I said grow a brain. Sorry fot that gaz, you are prolly much smarter than me :| |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 17:30:31 |
| Thanks for your adult insight dronk, that helped me a lot, I am on my why to adulthood, thanks. Who threw the first stone? Does that defend Para in ANY WAY dronk? Are you defending his decision? Plz tell me. |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-23 17:30:43 |
| When you put it like that ztorm I agree with you totally :) See all it takes is to be nice and rational. If you're typing in angry sweary letters then it just makes more likely to disregard what you're saying. |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 17:39:23 |
| It just came to my attention Paradoks, that you set minping on the server when we played FS. Is this true? If so, I have to ask you again: WHY DO YOU INTERFERE WITH OUR GAME? If you didnt, then I am sorry for this outrages rumor. |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 17:41:43 |
| gaz: really, who wants to read this fucked up long thread if it is just conservative boring stuff? :) |
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| FlePser (80.60.182.5) |
2004-02-23 17:43:33 |
| Why do you say that Mrlame doesn't play if you know he might play anyway? Why didn't you play instead of mrlame, when you 'promised?' that mrlame wouldn't play. you are lame, fs isn't :( i love fs i love e2m5 |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 17:46:53 |
| So Flepser, its ok for FS to play us when we dont have mrlame, but it is not ok when we got him, coz one of the FS player could not play, even if the game was scheduled one week in advance? |
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| UL (213.64.141.243) |
2004-02-23 17:49:02 |
| Ja fi fan |
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| andy (80.132.183.157) |
2004-02-23 17:51:21 |
| Gaz, those foreigners just don't have our British style and are no real gentlemen :( |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 17:54:54 |
| Real gentlemen sits on a horseback, with 20 more horses and 50 dogs...and hunts a lonely and scared fox. |
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| hib (212.149.248.127) |
2004-02-23 17:58:08 |
| why cant we all just Be friends ;((((( ...berserk ON...berserk OFF...berserk ON...berserk OFF.......berserk ON...berserk OFF.......berserk ON...berserk OFF.... |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 18:00:10 |
| Some ppl makes that very hard Hib. |
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| FlePser (80.60.182.5) |
2004-02-23 18:06:49 |
| well, just mention that they played without blixem while they actually wanted to reschedule and you played with mrlame, who wasn't supposed to play at all. |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-23 18:10:52 |
| haha andy... too right! |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 18:12:37 |
| Why do you want to reschedule when you got 4 ppl that can play? Why do you sign up more than 4 players in your rooster? It was not playoffs ffs. Are we STILL reschduling Real Madrid games if Zidane is injured? plz Fleps... |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-23 18:16:20 |
| middlesborough refused to play a premiership match a few years ago because they didn't have any fit players, so they got docked 3 points... |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 18:19:27 |
| Well mr. bright englishman, if FS had 3 players that couldnt play, np. But this was only 1 player. Are you still gonna own yourself some more gaz? |
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| razor (217.209.67.184) |
2004-02-23 18:26:59 |
| lol link... you go and tell 100 times we didnt wanna play blablabla... how come we DID play then... for your damn sake .. just to be kind cause it was scheduled... but other clans (everquest).. that we had same evening was not hard to reschedule with.. to the next day.. and now today we are having a nice and FUN game vs them... and about "hefe suddenly idling": mrlame told himself that he said he wasnt gonna play just to get us to play without blixem.... all this is about having fun and whynot just make favours for each other... if a clan asks to reschedule for whatever reason the other clan should be kind to just do that.. but if the other clan REALLY wanna play.. like u did yesterday.. well than the clan that wants to reschedule can be kind and just play without A-team.. like we were.. and then u go trashtalk us about it.. hm |
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| andy (80.132.181.81) |
2004-02-23 18:28:16 |
| I'd like to remind you of the final between SR and LA when some starplayers weren't available and hundreds of people said how lame it was to play the game, anyway. I just find they're wrong. Even though, I can understand them (you want to see the best teams and the teams want to play with the best team) it's just not the other team's fault. If you have unreliable members, that's a problem, but not the one of the other clan. |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 18:33:21 |
| Raz, that is why specced on dm3, coz we didnt wanna play you with our best lineup :) |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 18:34:14 |
| I still want to know if you set minping on the server Paradoks. Did you, or did you not? |
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| whimp (80.197.164.171) |
2004-02-23 18:34:44 |
| ".. then a few mins later link said they actually wanted to play sunday and that it was ok if blix didnt play since they wouldnt field their best player (mrlame) either .. so after some talking/time we agreed we'd play. and ofcourse mrlame joins the game and is going to play." Link plz comment this, is reppie lying? |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-23 18:39:23 |
| wtf link i wasn't making any kind of a point like that. i was just pointing out another scenario that happened. so howabout you stop this witch-hunt towards me? i think i will sign out of this argument with a very apt quote : "never argue with idiots, they will bring you down to their level, and then beat you with experience." you seem to be the most experienced of them all, you obnoxious moron. |
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| Hagge (217.210.145.76) |
2004-02-23 18:39:46 |
| this is really funny.. seriously B> |
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| frantic (69.157.140.229) |
2004-02-23 18:43:26 |
| razor is right. |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-23 18:43:37 |
| yeah hagge, if link was any further up his own arse he'd be eating sweetcorn |
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| manny (213.107.224.6) |
2004-02-23 18:50:53 |
| posting in legendary thread |
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| def (66.185.84.74) |
2004-02-23 19:00:14 |
| Objectively the fault lies with MRLAME. He and his teammates are solely responsible for their teams loss. Lets not forget that PARA is the admin of the GET2NET servers and he has the right to deny the use of server to anyone he pleases. In no way is he obligated to let anyone he doesnt want to play on his server. I think its MRLAMEs fault for provoking PARA. Really quite stupid IMO. Secondly once PARA banned MRLAME they could have played on other servers, even if the pings were worse off or not equal. Better to play the game rather than give WO. That was BGSRs decision, so don't let them transfer the fault to PARA. Finally the comments about PARAs weight are really childish, and have nothing to do with the issuess at hand. Blatant personal attacks, really out of line. MRLAME lacks any real substance to his argument. I really did not expect this... |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 19:16:41 |
| Whimp: I guess reppie thougt mrlame was not gonna play, so did I. But for some reason El Hefe was idle, he joined in map #2. And since we were playing the 1st map with no problems at all (with mrlame), I left it at that. We got owned. I guess FS thougth it was gonna be ez 2-0? I dont think reppie is lying, he is cool. Sure, it was lame to play with mrlame if we said we shouldnt play with him. But it is also lame to wanting to reschedule coz one of your players cant play, when you sign up more than 4 players in your rooster, and you actually got 4 players that can play on the night. Why the hell do we schedule games anyway? Makes me think of HGC that can only play on Fridays and Sundays, coz they refuse to play without Insane. It's a fucking joke (c) slime. Ah, common gaz, you can make better abuses than that! There is a thin line between having som fun or being mental, i guess :> DEF: plz tell me if you agree that an admin should interfair with the game, like para did, or if he should be as retarded as mrlame, being an NQR admin, SERVER admin, QW.NU admin etc etc. He even set minping on the server. rofl. He also claims I got 28 ms to .se and .dk servers. I got 40 ms to .se .dk and .fi, I only got 28 in Norway. PARA IS RETARDED, ok? |
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| drejfus (213.112.144.192) |
2004-02-23 19:22:02 |
| im suprised that the rest of the admin crew is so idle now... imo they should atleast say something... icce? legio? kryten? billy? jebur? xhrl? its now you really need to be admins... |
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| drejfus (213.112.144.192) |
2004-02-23 19:23:07 |
| ...and remove the ironhand on QW's neck! |
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| HangTime (213.208.111.197) |
2004-02-23 19:27:18 |
| Why don't you just unban mrlame from g2n and play 3rd map again, then everyone is happy. Reppie has good ping there now so everything should be fine with minping 39. If people have the energy to write in this read I'm sure they can summon the energy for 20mins of quake. @link: I thought 123s analogy was superb, actually. Seems to me like Para thinks he has a divine right to watch over every game, maybe he's forgotten the time slackers demanded a smackdown(?) game be played on telenordia with no cams at all and just oddjob as spectator/admin. |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-23 19:28:15 |
| Link: "when you sign up more than 4 players in your rooster" - what the hell do chickens have to do with anything?! Cock a doodle doo. |
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| whimp (80.197.164.171) |
2004-02-23 19:29:17 |
| Link: Hmmm yes that was lame, but hard to expect anything else from "Mrlame" himself or his clan :(. Drejfus: Get real. Para does more for the community than the rest of us together (except Fuh of course). Para got emmotional, which must never happen for an admin, however being emmotional its easier (for me) to forgive than plain lameness. |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 19:29:18 |
| Welcome to the fun Dreeyfus :> You know the drill Dreey; some answer will come, and it will be like this: "Link is imature as usual, so we dont pay attention to his lameness. We have told Para to not do the same thing again, we have all learned from this." ...or something like that, you know, the usual stuff! |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 19:32:55 |
| Ah gaz, you are following the imature path, good for you :D HT: I guess every clan should just reschedule then if they cant play with their best lineup, winning is everyting as usual. |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 19:36:33 |
| Oh, and one more thing. I am so glad that para set minping on the server. This is clearly a new trend from the superadmin, so that EVERY game in NQR now will have minping set on servers, MAYBE EVEN WHEN SLACKERS PLAY AS WELL! |
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| ztorm (81.225.34.16) |
2004-02-23 19:44:07 |
| Im writing this comment as a respons to defs earlier statement. Def u talk about objectivity and u didnt even mention any of the mistakes (insulting, abusing nqr power etc) , even though he admitted some of them(!). nr1. Yes Para kan kick/ban who ever he wants to on get2net, BUT everything started with the insult which came from "PARA" as you state. nr2. If u read the other comments you can read that we did not want to play the game cos we fealt unfairly treated by the PARA not as the admin on get2net but as an admin of NQR. nr 3. I know that it takes 2 for tango. ^^ |
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| LocKtar (213.64.3.108) |
2004-02-23 20:44:09 |
| wtf, this is some wierd shit ... *drunk?* |
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| razor (217.209.67.184) |
2004-02-23 20:44:54 |
| no one has ever said what insult it was.. can someone paste the exact words? i wanna know what makes it ok to kick the nqr admin 5 times.. |
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| Psycho Dad (81.225.151.215) |
2004-02-23 20:48:02 |
| My ass = 2hot4u |
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| drejfus (213.112.144.192) |
2004-02-23 21:04:54 |
| its not the first time paradoks/nqr-crew insults an nqr-player, let me quote paradoks on some old-news-commentsection "so just accept that you will never be top player, and your too lazy/stupid/busy to learn the tactics on that level as well and let the others be. As i stated above - go play admortem/teamup or even make your own "hello we are all very sucky and only wanna play tb3, eventhough we don't know those maps either" is the nqr-crews main task to bully the players? if so, their succsess is flawless! |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-23 21:08:01 |
| Razor: He shouldnt involved himself in the game, it was not his FUCKING BUSINESS. He comes in to the server, makes it his business, AND HE EVEN SET MINPING ON THE SERVER. To all div. 1 clans; from now on, we demand MINPING on all games. This is the new standard in NQR, set by Paradoks, so we will OBEY it. |
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| Hagge (217.210.145.76) |
2004-02-23 22:21:40 |
| is that for sure Psycho Dad? :( |
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| forsberg (80.199.157.54) |
2004-02-23 22:50:41 |
| sounds like he actually had some business, since bqsr wouldnt eliminate map first ? |
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| mrlame (195.198.44.167) |
2004-02-23 23:21:26 |
| we did eliminate first map sort of we said before the random vote that we wanted to play dm2 as decider and fs did not agree... so we also said that we are not playing cmt4 so thats leaves fs with 2 choices since we didn't want to play cmt4 |
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| razor (217.209.67.184) |
2004-02-23 23:23:17 |
| minping= favour?.. or was it bad.. u rather wanna play 30 vs 50 avg instead of 40 vs 50 ? and why cant a nqr admin spec a game just cause he have had some previous disputes with one of the players?.. ok that an admin shouldnt trashtalk players on the server.. but then please just paste the exact words he said.. i still havent heard it.. and then we can judge how bad it was and maybe ill rest my case |
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| ztorm (81.225.34.16) |
2004-02-23 23:40:42 |
| im not sure razor , but something like "remove mrlame and let link play , mrlame cant play dm3" maby not those words but something like that. intensive moments easy to forget :D |
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| Angua (212.181.55.76) |
2004-02-23 23:52:27 |
| Razor, about this a-team talk... do you seriously think we'd play with link if we just wanted to win? The A-Team in bgsr is the one we used at dm3, why did we use it ? link despises dm3. We just want to have fun, and it's not fun when an admin trashtalks our player, and forcing a WO. |
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| Angua (212.181.55.76) |
2004-02-23 23:59:47 |
| and secondly, Why should we judge how bad it was? It was directed to mrlame, he judges how bad it was... stupid. |
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| Link (80.213.32.60) |
2004-02-24 00:19:24 |
| Razor, since when did the NQR admins get on a server and force minping on a game he dont have to supervice? That's the first time in history for me. FUBAR. |
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| b13 (195.9.36.1) |
2004-02-24 00:49:05 |
| Arglebargleflipflop w00hw00h0 h0p h0p h0p p0nG!
This states my feelings towards this thread. Thank you, and may you all have an exploding evening! w00hw00w00h000h0pppg00bleg00ble.. |
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| Max Rebo (213.64.160.172) |
2004-02-24 01:29:21 |
| Bionic Commando is a good game. |
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| ParadokS (81.19.254.107) |
2004-02-24 02:01:04 |
| i was cam'ing the game with 3 iop qizmos. if they request minping and i see there is ok big ping diffrence i am not afraid to step in and make a move. There was no argument against it on the server or any wine at all. Infact on top of the minping mrlame rejoined with higher ping to make it even MORE fair. Ok he reconnected during game to get lower ping but that is beside the point. The only time discussion about minping was brought up was after the game when mrlame had been banned and you were looking for more stuff to write about. About trashtalking, all i said on dm3 (after i was kicked several times) was in connection with ongoing conversation. El Hefe was spectating and said to link to go spec and link said "nah i don't feel ike it" so i commented "kanske mrlame skulla springa ?var, ?r inte just hans kart" which means in english: "maybe mrlame should skip this round, it isnt exactly his map". and that is word by word. |
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| Link (80.213.32.60) |
2004-02-24 03:03:25 |
| David, you interfered with the game, something you should not do at all, in any way. Why is it so hard for you to understand that? |
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| ParadokS (130.225.71.251) |
2004-02-24 04:37:45 |
| what you really meant was, "if we all just keep quiet enough, for a long enough time, maybe reppie wont mind afterall that we play with so big ping advantage." But no, big ol' para had to budge in and ruin it all. |
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| sexC (61.171.26.20) |
2004-02-24 05:00:33 |
| razor: hehe vaxjo maste gjort dig lite hetlevrad? :) |
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| andy (80.132.181.81) |
2004-02-24 07:07:03 |
| after having a terrible night out, i'd just like to say one thing: it's only a fucking game! don't take it too seriously. para should say sorry and the (quake)world is alright again. sad enough that the real world isn't |
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| razor (217.209.67.184) |
2004-02-24 09:19:44 |
| sexc, jag l?ser alltid flamewars :), men ska nog sluta med det, det ?r ?nd? bara samma envisa idioter (inklusive mig) som aldrig ?ndrar sig ?nd?, som ?r med i alla meningsl?sa diskussioner.. :) |
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| oosi (80.222.69.155) |
2004-02-24 10:29:30 |
| paradox: you cant be serious that mrlame would listen some 'nqrcam' nick if hes saying he would ban someone? why didnt you took youre own nick and showed up who you really are? prolly mrlame thought theres some wallu or twist doing that shit? you never know. you did wrong there but it never clears the work you've done for the QW and its scene. all others: how the fuck this is went the shit like this? its NEVER been this kinda shit before, only whining, banning, barking etc. which really doesnt counts in quake. it shouldn't atleast. get fucking relaxed and quit all that bs. you still have few years to grow up to age that i am! :] |
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| jester (62.142.13.171) |
2004-02-24 11:03:21 |
| plz stfu this is just quake
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| luny (212.226.139.122) |
2004-02-24 11:13:57 |
| Link, what you mean an admin shouldn't "interfere" with a game? That's exactly what admin's job is. If players want to play as equal pings as possible, ofcourse admin does sv_minping, who else? And if clans do not know how to determine 3rd map, admin is there to inform players how the selection is made. |
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| Diki (62.73.41.176) |
2004-02-24 12:08:45 |
| Kids kids havent u had a father? I can be urs DAD, just contact me.
Maybe i can buy a new skate board for mrlame and wrist rest for paradoks if that makes u happier :o |
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| Hagge (217.210.145.76) |
2004-02-24 12:35:04 |
| you can get me some lohjanen dag skills diki! :((( |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-24 12:36:34 |
| Luny: AND ADMIN IS NOT REQUIRED FOR AN ORDINARY LEAGUE GAME IN NQR, UNLESS THE CLANS TAKE CONTACT WITH AN ADMIN COZ THEY GOT ISSUES THEY CANT SOLVE THEMSELVES. This is what Paradoks dont FUCKING UNDERSTAND. But maybe you do? Think about this; If Paradoks was jerking off to some porn, had dinner with his mom, or was just playing qw on some other server, THEN THIS GAME WOULD HAVE BEEN PLAYED AS IT SHOULD. But no, Paradoks must mess with everything he fels he can mess with, no matter what it is. And Paradoks dont have to speak for Reppie, unless he thinks Reppie is a kid who cant speak for himself. PARADOKS: DONT FUCKING INTERFERE WITH OUR GAMES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! |
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| luny (212.226.139.122) |
2004-02-24 13:08:41 |
| Link, ok, I understand that admin may not be _required_, but it's not prohibited either. I think it's very nice to have active admins who even can put in the effort of providing cams for interesting matches. I wouldn't wanna take on any sides here, but maybe also you understand that if mr.lame wouldn't have exploited server bug to gain more privileges he's allowed to (which in itself is questionable) and constantly kicking admin/cam, then "this game would have been played as it should".
Finally, being the most persistent, to the point that noone else bothers to argue anymore doesn't always mean you're right. So, with these words, this conversation is over for me.
PS. Peace :) |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-24 13:18:55 |
| I also think its nice with admins that put up cams. I dont think its nice with admins that forces minping when no one asked him to, I dont think its nice with admins that interferes with the game when no one asked him to. Peace is ok with me, but that gets hard when ppl still defend a lost cause. Makes you question wtf goes on in their heads.
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| seni (217.37.205.217) |
2004-02-24 13:31:53 |
| sANDYMAn - 81.226.57.166 2004-02-23 15:06:17
OJOJ VITTUN HELPO!!!
;E totally agree. |
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| oosi (194.142.237.2) |
2004-02-24 13:41:34 |
| barkers :< assholes :< whimps :< noobs :< morons :< idiots :< youngsters :< quitters :< loosers :< |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-24 15:18:13 |
| Link: " If Paradoks was jerking off to some porn, had dinner with his mom"
That's extremely unhygienic :< |
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| gaz (62.252.32.7) |
2004-02-24 15:18:34 |
| plus in my house we had a rule of no wanking at the dinner table (except Christmas and Easter) |
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| oosi (194.142.237.3) |
2004-02-24 15:56:34 |
| you must be swede :/ |
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| raket (213.204.182.64) |
2004-02-24 16:12:41 |
| OJOJ VITTUN HELPO!! :P |
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| menth0l (82.181.5.243) |
2004-02-24 16:19:41 |
| I hardly think making one comment about a players ability in a given map is grounds for exploiting a bug to gain admin rights and kicking the person. |
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| Angua (212.181.55.76) |
2004-02-24 16:24:23 |
| there were various console-chat(paradoks-favorite) from zer nqr-cam in the e1m2-game as well... |
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| tanelii (62.72.237.219) |
2004-02-24 16:32:57 |
| repee ihradoxii plz kuole.. Link for president! |
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| OPA|Metz (145.253.144.62) |
2004-02-24 16:54:35 |
| I am not taking sides here since the only source of information I have on the subject is what I have read in this forum. As an avid spectator of NQR and quakeworld in general I have respect for both Mr. Lame as a player (his pov is always one of my favorites) and for Paradoks as a player and for all that he has done for the community in general. Maybe it is just not wise to allow an admin to participate in the league itself. It can only breed hostility. I just plain hate to see such bad blood in our small cozy qw community. How about the online equivalent of a handshake and let's all move on. I await the decider map with great anticipation. |
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| Link (80.203.229.225) |
2004-02-24 17:08:02 |
| I would more than welcome that we just forgot about this and moved on. I will appoligise for all my lame comments. But as long as Paradoks will not admit that his interfering in this game was 100% wrong, and he will not excuse this, then it becomes impossible for me. Paradoks still says that the NQR5 final was fair, he will not admit that it was not fair. As long as he continues to be so blind, the bad blood will not go away, at least not from me. |
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| Legio! (81.224.220.25) |
2004-02-24 23:27:47 |
| I'd suggest you go read the following then Link -> http://www.nqr.nu/newscomment.php?id=133 |
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| Adler (80.186.21.219) |
2004-02-25 16:21:49 |
| Link, how about new lame-ever? About this match. |
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| wallu (80.223.119.8) |
2004-02-25 16:51:54 |
| I'm the new nqr admin so plz show some respect for me |
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| anti (217.211.209.202) |
2004-02-25 19:22:41 |
| ye wallu ^^ |
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| mel (194.89.25.15) |
2004-02-26 09:53:17 |
| Why wasn't this thing published on SERVU. It's now the first time i read it :(( AFTER the newspost about Para quitting. |
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| Angua (212.181.55.76) |
2004-02-27 01:17:15 |
| Hehe mel, it was announced on serv-u... though it was about 4:00 CET at that moment, perhaps that's why :P |
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| Domin (82.181.1.175) |
2004-02-27 02:44:57 |
| When mrlame got banned from server, why you just didnt change server ?! if mrlage got banned, there is lots of other 4v4 servers, why to give wo? just to get this issue bigger than it is? |
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| knast (217.224.177.167) |
2004-02-27 12:26:19 |
| nice cs community:) |
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| Caban (212.76.39.4) |
2004-02-27 18:22:58 |
| As someone already mention everyone can do mistakes. Remember - NOBOBY's 100% perfect. Why you all blame ParadokS for this one not so big mistake? Thought ParadokS made so much for qw community so we can forgive him and forget about this disagreement. His bigger mistake was decision about to leave nqr crew and we all gonna regret it. I can't really say who made wrong, because I don't know who made THE first step. If ParadokS was first to try interfering, than mrlame was right to kick him. BUT if mrlame was first and kicked ParadokS with no reason, than mrlame was wrong ( or rather both sides after few minutes ). Someone said that if they don't want to have ParadokS on spectate they don't have to and they have rights to kick him - WTF? We don't have now KING ARTHUR times, we have 21 century! Everybody have the same rights and can spectate each game if they want to! If someone want to buy an orange you will refuse him because you don't like him? NO, you will sell him because he has the rights to buy it! LINK --> FFS you can't judge ppl by their age! If someone is 14 years old it doesn't means that you are smarter because you are 19 years old ! AND BTW
I didnt think that FS was as lame as HGC, but you sure came close (c) Link WTF HGC made to you? |
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| -kat- (80.54.162.171) |
2004-02-28 14:56:01 |
| link get a life couse qw infects ur mind... if u got it at all.......... |
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| offbreed (213.67.50.71) |
2004-02-29 21:09:35 |
| wtf is going on ?!?!? :) |
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| oosi (80.222.69.155) |
2004-03-01 04:17:10 |
| gg |
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| BerSerK (81.227.122.237) |
2004-03-01 15:10:32 |
| ZZZzzzzZZZz... |
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| QWGODmadbone (82.39.99.154) |
2004-03-01 21:45:30 |
| FS>BGSR oh and me>link+paradox GG SIT |
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| Eta-bETa (193.241.250.13) |
2004-03-02 20:34:15 |
| S?, bra. H?ll k?ften nu alla och spela. Orkar inte sl?sa en massa tid h?r n?r man inte har kv?llstj?nst.
J?vla skitthread. |
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| 0-_-0 (217.209.166.42) |
2004-03-03 11:46:53 |
| sug kuk eta.. qw d?r snart ?nd?. b?rja lira unreal ist?llet om du inte orkar med diskussioner |
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| manu (130.235.174.146) |
2004-03-04 01:52:05 |
| orkar inte l?sa |
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| Angua (212.181.55.76) |
2004-03-04 20:51:04 |
| mel - 194.89.25.15 2004-02-26 09:53:17
Why wasn't this thing published on SERVU. It's now the first time i read it :(( AFTER the newspost about Para quitting.
Almighty jezaja banned me from the bot after announcing >:) |
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| fisto (213.101.39.154) |
2004-03-06 21:34:00 |
| /me detta ?ger n?stan mer ?n melodi festivalen? |
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| quesus (81.228.46.122) |
2004-03-16 00:51:26 |
| Let me do a summary:
Bullsh!t |
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| Hagge (217.210.145.76) |
2004-05-01 17:18:56 |
| last comment! |
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| Ghost (81.225.207.71) |
2004-06-01 19:54:33 |
| nope Hagge, you are teh ownzed |
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| Hagge (217.210.145.49) |
2004-06-01 22:24:58 |
| i r best :e |
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| Hangman (83.252.73.130) |
2004-10-01 13:20:16 |
| nope Hagge, you are teh ownzed! *kramizen* |
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