Battle Info  2004-04-06 Division 3 - Week 3 (8)
 

 
Maniacs 2 - 1 Dybbuk
 
 

DM2 - Claustrophobopolis



161-165

Reports
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Demos
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DM3 - The Abandoned Base



152-119

Reports
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Demos
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E1M2 - Castle of the Damned



193-159

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Demos
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Comments
 
Horatio (213.113.172.31) 2004-04-06 14:03:37
bg maniacs
   
Tuna (212.202.169.220) 2004-04-06 14:13:36
yes- yes- we- sh- ould- mak- e- som- e- rule- es- th- at- warp- ing- won- t- be- allo- wed- bec- ause- it- tak- es- all- you- r- fun-. if- do- ne- on- pur- pose- or- no- t- i do- nt- ca- re-. gg- sass- a-! he- mus- t- be- qua-ke- god- in pers- on if- he- ca- n be- so- le- et- wi- th- th- is- mu- ch- la- g-!
   
sassa (81.224.85.39) 2004-04-06 14:24:08
LOL!!!! hora du e en KUK p? n?tet men j?vla trevlig irl!! fattar inte va de e med dig, du e bara cp! for Dybbuk, Im gonna upload the demo, and this is the most LOL I have ever seen, u guys complain that I lag to much?!?!??! wtf is happening!!!
   
Apollyon (62.206.113.178) 2004-04-06 14:24:20
Maniacs are the most lame team in NQR div3 this season.
   
dropdead... (81.226.189.34) 2004-04-06 14:26:26
i must be a n00b, but wtf is warping ??? :)))
   
ZkilfinG (217.215.198.51) 2004-04-06 14:31:39
lol indeed
   
Tuna (212.202.169.220) 2004-04-06 14:32:04
yes when the lag becomes an annoying problem for others i wish you had ping 13 and i have the slightiest chance of hitting. and i am not skilled enough to compensate this bug as good as you are? maybe write in english aswell?
   
menth0l (193.166.173.6) 2004-04-06 14:42:16
I understand Sassa warps around quite a bit.
   
Hagge (217.210.145.76) 2004-04-06 15:00:10
omg yet another page with tons of whine! :)
   
ZkilfinG (217.215.198.51) 2004-04-06 15:24:23
whine is a bigger part of the qw-community than qw itself
   
Vandal (212.202.169.220) 2004-04-06 16:22:08
maybe to clarify .. we said we didnt want to play with sassa after dm2 already .. not just because he was top fragger in dm3 (which just added to the confusion .. you know people that suffer lag dont dance around at the top over on red). Anyways it is my understanding that QW normally doesnt make others suffer the lag of someone else. I dont know what is causing this. But I can assure you all it makes it hell to hit him and it doesnt seem to affect him alot (can you bunny hop if you "lag" this much?). Maybe Sassa is really the QW god. But this warping has no place in QW and I am quite certain that such an avid QA gamer can manage to get a decent provider if this is really such a huge problem (I cant remember lagging this much during my 56k days and even then I remember that I got creamed by cable modem players who had no problems with me lagging ..) I dont know the QW source but I am hoping that the developers of server knew what they were doing. In that case the server determines the reality. Which means that all a client can do is express his "wishes" of how to affect the "reality". This means that Sassa shouldnt be doing anything funky on the side of other clients. Sassa's lagging should just result in some of Sassa's commandos not being received or being received with a delay on the server. Which would mean that Sassa must be having huge trouble bunny hoping, dancing around red on dm3, hopping over to mega in dm2 and even forget about any in fights or tight rocket shooting. On the other peoples side all that would happen is that Sassa would occationally be walking into things, getting stuck on corners, stupidly fall from things and generall be easy fragging. Whatever is going on its a bug in the QW server. Either its a cheat or its just a bug .. in either case it needs to be fixed and Sassa shouldnt be allowed to play official matches until then (if more people suffer from this then this would just make a need for a fix more urgent). Anyways I am not convinced that Sassa is suffering at all. However people who have to play him definately are suffering as you can see from looking at the match comments.
   
whajna (213.114.243.236) 2004-04-06 16:24:06
Vandal, ever since mqwcl and fuhquake was released you have been able to bunnyjump just as well with 700 ms as with 13 ms
   
menth0l (193.166.173.6) 2004-04-06 16:50:46
I gotta say that after zoo vs maniacs i did hear similar remarks from our players. Sassa apparently makes 4-5 meter (quakemeter) warps which makes hitting him nigh impossible. :/
   
Tuna (212.202.169.220) 2004-04-06 16:56:07
whajna, then its even worse if all other suffer except yourself? :-) all we are saying is that this needs to be fixed as this is - or can be - 'unfair' or at least is just annyoing and sucks.
   
HangTime (213.208.111.197) 2004-04-06 18:25:42
Reppie is anotherone who traditionally has been extremely hard to hit due to his jerky warped movement
   
mx (83.70.51.170) 2004-04-06 18:26:56
yeah that is gay. Ive played a few cable modemrs and its not that bad but tracking them is very hard imo. usually when its said to the other player they have no idea what your on about, but it is very very annoying to play against
   
Hagge (217.210.145.76) 2004-04-06 18:29:34
Well since it only seems like it's sassa "suffering" from this "bug", "cheat" or whatever, I think we make it simple and just ban him from all tournaments. Doesn't that just sound like a great solution? :P and all games where he already had played should result in wo for the enemy team of course! :)
   
luckyshot (195.148.65.5) 2004-04-06 19:20:14
yeah sassa was warping against us too...first he was at the far end of ra and suddenly at the opposite side...and one time he was coming to ya from quad and suddenly he already was at ya, near ssg...dont know what is causing this though...and didnt seen sassa warping in my pov...
   
luckyshot (195.148.65.5) 2004-04-06 19:21:13
and his ping was normal during warping, and it didnt affect on his gameplay...
   
lib (194.47.63.35) 2004-04-06 20:04:09
and this one time, at band camp...
   
ZkilfinG (217.215.198.51) 2004-04-06 22:12:37
how about some .qwz's to show us what you're talking about?
   
ZkilfinG (217.215.198.51) 2004-04-06 22:12:37
how about some .qwz's to show us what you're talking about?
   
sassa (81.224.85.39) 2004-04-06 23:31:05
look at my demos here: http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=24867 and if u still think Im not affected then come over and tryit out
   
moris (146.102.89.69) 2004-04-06 23:49:32
totally agree with hagge :|
   
FlePser (80.60.182.5) 2004-04-07 03:40:31
sassa is teh rightfullest one always!
   
yveZ (195.64.93.181) 2004-04-07 05:44:40
I cant help but say: sassa, ur such a nerd, flooding alice on irc saying you have the demos to "prove" something......ah come on now...... we know u rule, we also know we drule..... :(
   
Afr (194.100.70.89) 2004-04-07 10:38:25
I mentioned Sassas warping problem after our Nqr game. ( and during the game) Like Luckyshot told somethimes it was impossible to shoot him. Sassa has something like 25-30 ping and no pl. Or 1-3 max. After games I watched the demos from sassas pov and it wasnt affecting on his gameplay. Really GG when he has Q and you are trying to kill him but no way. I just cant believe bad connection is real reason for this.
   
raket (213.204.182.26) 2004-04-07 13:38:02
sassa styr upp ser jag :> ńice sassa
   
raket (213.204.182.26) 2004-04-07 13:41:31
man i see there's alot of bullshit here like: Tuna (212.202.169.220) 2004-04-06 14:32:04 yes when the lag becomes an annoying problem for others i wish you had ping 13 and i have the slightiest chance of hitting. and i am not skilled enough to compensate this bug as good as you are? maybe write in english aswell? SASSA FOR PREZIDENT! IF HE GOT PING 13 MS HE WILL OWN U WITH 1000000-0
   
Afr (194.100.70.89) 2004-04-07 14:14:34
man i see there's alot of bullshit here like: raket
   
pattah (212.202.29.39) 2004-04-07 15:14:16
face the facts... sassa isn't l33t enough to code his own hax, so there's no such cl_warping 1 :)
   
Tuna (212.202.169.220) 2004-04-07 16:06:28
yes raket, he most certainly will.. but then he is an ?bergamer and rules me with his script and aim skills and i have to reason to whine ok?
   
Vandal (212.202.169.220) 2004-04-07 16:07:34
Ok I just watched the entire dm3 demo through sassa's pov. I have seen people run through the map smoother than he is. However he didnt once bump into a wall, fall of anything or missed a jump. I have seen people boomstick better but this was nothing bad at all. Actually he seemed to be doing quite well in all boomstick fights. Please have a look at the dm3 demo [1] and tell me that this guy is lagging. Yes he is warping in the demo but no he is not lagging. Whatever is causing this it is not lag. [1] http://www.dybbuk.de/index.php?ext_language=de&ext_page=wars_show&ext_clanadmin_mode=show&ext_main_id=110
   
Link (80.213.43.168) 2004-04-07 17:22:15
Sassa is div. 1 player guys...bgsr next for him :)
   
Link (80.213.43.168) 2004-04-07 17:22:46
Or maybe just his rate was fucked up? :)
   
raket (213.204.182.26) 2004-04-07 17:54:25
http://www.quakeworld.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9878#9878 will describe sassa's lag.
   
BrandonWalsh (213.114.24.251) 2004-04-07 18:54:47
Most retarded thread ever?
   
BrandonWalsh (213.114.24.251) 2004-04-07 18:57:54
*PATTAH*
   
pattah (212.202.29.39) 2004-04-07 19:30:37
*MP*
   
JKova^tF (80.222.32.123) 2004-04-07 19:48:03
i agree with the "sassa's warping is highly annoying" part but don't go accusing him of cheating straight away :) i'm a bit suspicious however on how is it possible that the lag he claims to have has no visual effect on his own gameplay but everyone else notices and suffers from it. but maybe sassa has just got used to the lag and truly is div1 material :)
   
sassa (81.224.85.39) 2004-04-07 20:02:29
im not div1 material.. atleast not with this little experience and this connection! but sure Im used to the lagg and thats why it dosnt bother me as much as it bothers u guys, but yeah, I have broken some of my mouse's in frustation (uh spelling plz!) Link, my rate is not fucked up.. I have always this kind of lagg and I dont win anything by fucking up my rate..
   
Apollyon (160.45.22.126) 2004-04-07 20:18:15
I would like to see your r_netgraph Sassa.
   
sassa (81.224.85.39) 2004-04-07 22:38:49
I got r_netgraph 0
   
Apollyon (62.206.113.178) 2004-04-08 09:31:38
lol...
   
Hagge (217.210.145.76) 2004-04-08 10:14:03
haha
   
mel (194.89.25.14) 2004-04-08 11:17:21
:EEEEEEEE
   
sassa (81.224.85.39) 2004-04-09 00:42:15
wow, I even lol at myself now
   
Empezar (213.113.96.41) 2004-10-12 21:42:21
you can see netgraphs by downloading his qwz demo and doing r_netgraph 1
   
 
 

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