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Activity 040206
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I am anticipating a great deal of games this weekend :)
Infact im expecting THIS many games!
Week 1 is not over yet, and the weekend usually is the most active part of a week for QW games. But I do strongly recommend that you start playing more NQR games. I have heard rumors of clans refusing NQR games, because they rather wanna play AM or practice.
but I probably heard wrong ;)
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gaz (62.252.32.7) |
040206 @ 04:04:38 |
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stop moaning and fix the website problems! :P |
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Horatio (213.113.172.227) |
040206 @ 08:40:59 |
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and btw, fix the maps, some clans are playing kenya maps. is that really allowed? |
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Goljat (80.221.42.91) |
040206 @ 08:50:36 |
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hey come on horatio stop your one man war against community, cmt4 is played almost as much as tb3. http://www.nqr.nu/maps.php |
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Apollyon (62.206.113.178) |
040206 @ 13:22:19 |
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Yes, it is allowed. Maybe we will select such a map just to annoy you. But maybe we will decide to annoy you on tb3 instead! |
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Horatio (213.113.172.249) |
040206 @ 14:12:38 |
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Like i am the only one that dislike cmt and other kenya maps? if u make one kenya map allowed why dont all kenya exmy and exmytdm? too hard to learn all maps? well why should we play some clans kenya homemaps and not others? bg |
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Horatio (213.113.172.249) |
040206 @ 14:13:20 |
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btw Playing qw 4on4 on other maps than tb3 is like playing soccer on table tennis tables or on a horsejumping court... |
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Gamer (193.166.235.171) |
040206 @ 14:21:29 |
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stfu horatio ITS NOT THAT HARD TO LEARN 2 FUCKING MAPS |
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nEpra (217.210.47.29) |
040206 @ 14:25:07 |
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no you are probably not alone hating those maps Horatio. But im probably not alone hating dm3 either. plz remove it? |
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kenyan (62.252.32.7) |
040206 @ 14:25:26 |
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STFU ABOUT MY COUNTRY YOU RACIST |
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alien (194.89.25.15) |
040206 @ 14:27:16 |
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wwooo-o, i'm an alien, i'm a legal alien, i'm an kenyan in dm3 |
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alien (194.89.25.15) |
040206 @ 14:30:04 |
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and i'd like to add that you shouldn't press the clans that muchm the fixtures were up last weekend, and most clans have 3 games to play within a week. of course it's crucial to get the games played before summer, but i think the schedule is a bit too tight. |
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Apollyon (62.206.113.178) |
040206 @ 14:31:58 |
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I think the idea behind the map system is to establish two more maps in order to eventually have tb5 some time soon.
Smackdown tried this as well, but the maps tried didnt quite match up with tb3. In NQR6 the map selection is a bit unfortunate, too as cmt4 certainly is a great map while e2m2tdm seems to be doubtful. But this is of course all very subjective. Btw, both map are not new at all, both being played in competitions and on ffa for years and only slightly modified. If you still dont know your ways around them - bad luck. We all still got a lot to learn on them though and that is very positive i think. I mean image teams that have totally different styles of playing cmt4! When have we seen things as these on tb3 last time, 6 years ago? |
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nEpra (217.210.47.29) |
040206 @ 14:54:16 |
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i just dont get why you make a e2m2TDM from e2m2. e2m2 have been one of the exmx maps who works in 4on4 and i doubt the TDM version will be any better. |
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gaz (62.252.32.7) |
040206 @ 14:55:22 |
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e2m2tdm is quite fun but its not very condusive to teamplay really. and quite spammy also. |
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Apollyon (62.206.113.178) |
040206 @ 15:01:29 |
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nepra: i guess Link thought e2m2 sucked and needed to be "fixed". |
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menth0l (193.166.173.6) |
040206 @ 15:50:08 |
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Oh jesus shut up about the maps. Cmt4 and e2m2 are both fine maps. Which is more than can be said about certain maps with 2 quads *ahem* |
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Link (80.203.229.225) |
040206 @ 16:04:17 |
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Apo said: "But this is of course all very subjective". Very intelligent words, and this is why THERE WILL NEVER BE such a thing as TB5. You will NEVER EVER get the qw community to fully agree 100 % about TB5. Only thing ppl fully agrees on is TB3. This is why the current NQR map system is flawed. k? |
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oosi (194.142.237.2) |
040206 @ 16:38:43 |
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how about kenyamaps tournee and tb3mapstournee? its not a quakeplayer who cant play all maps, its a big whiner and semipro assholecuntmuthafuckerbitch |
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bagesie (193.244.32.12) |
040206 @ 17:22:32 |
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soo many hootsiepootsie for soo little maps... during my "student"-days i played like a hundred maps (mostly 1-1 or 2-2 though) and 10%-25% of them was big fun.... perhaps those whom whine about a few "new" maps never played anything else than tb3 and should broaden their experience... anywayz, i like hootsierolls too and btw, ToT rulorz ! |
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Link (80.203.229.225) |
040206 @ 18:17:48 |
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Ye, ToT are ALWAYS broadening their experience when it comes to maps. |
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ParadokS (81.19.254.107) |
040206 @ 18:22:35 |
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I am aware that TB3 probably wont be a reality - which wasn't the intention anyway. I see nothing wrong with getting another map in the pool that also top clans can enjoy for many many matches in the future (cmt4), that provide the tactical depth and action we like. A 5th map could be cycled from season to season or smoething on the line with that. I don't see why that should be a big problem. Also the sheer fact that we reduced map pool dosen't only produce negative replies. Let me quote slabby:
"Well first of all i hate all custom(kenya) maps coz i dont find any of them very good, but i think it is good that they have reduced the number of maps to five instead of like 9999999. Now i have actually taken the time to learn cmt4. It still sucks, but now i can play it."
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Archvile (62.236.147.69) |
040206 @ 18:41:33 |
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I'm from semiserious clan and I have to say that 3 match/week is quite a burden. Please can you stretch the schedule a bit. |
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Link (80.203.229.225) |
040206 @ 18:41:35 |
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Quotes from Slabby regarding maps is much like reading this: "I see nothing wrong with getting another map in the pool that also top clans can enjoy for many many matches in the future (cmt4), that provide the tactical depth and action we like" (c) ParadokS. Tell me when I should start to laugh. It is really nice for the qw community that you have selected the 4th map for us para, for many years to come! omfg |
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ParadokS (81.19.254.107) |
040206 @ 19:53:54 |
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ye it is :) And the more you talk the more tiresome you become listening too. The whole fjortis attitude is outdated :(
Your a grown man, start talking like one. |
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jinx (80.202.34.194) |
040206 @ 20:21:02 |
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cmt4 have some uniqe teamplay wich is what I want from maps. Its very ugly though |
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gaz (62.252.32.7) |
040206 @ 20:27:08 |
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if you want good looking maps then go play q3 or some other eye candy piece of crap! |
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fisto (213.101.122.24) |
040206 @ 21:01:53 |
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I dont like the cmt maps. I think we gonna se dm4 i the poole soon. very soon. I AM GOING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN!! |
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xhrl (142.22.16.52) |
040206 @ 21:12:06 |
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there never was any 'conscious' intent among the nqr admins to establish a tb5. cmt4, which is not everybody's cup of tea, was nevertheless very popular last year; so it was almost automatically put into the map pool; the fifth was unclear to us, hence the vote that was held. perhaps link is right that our map pool system sucks, but it is what seemed best to us. most admins, including me, do believe a map pool of 5 makes for a better quality of gameplay amongst all divisions than if it were 7, 9 or even more. this is disputable of course, but we are just trying to do our best for the qw scene and nqr. |
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Icce (195.67.211.134) |
040206 @ 22:14:14 |
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Mr Link from No-way always whine, no matter what we implement/change in this league :P. And I'm not as confident as Para that cmt4 will automaticully be the natural tb4 map..we'll have to let the season go and see what evaluation/feedback gives to us first imo :) |
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sweeper (62.66.143.226) |
040206 @ 22:15:05 |
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I think its very nice that there are only 5 maps now. I just wish you would have included e2m7 - that map is so underestimated :) |
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Link (80.203.229.225) |
040206 @ 22:26:13 |
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WoW Icce, I see some intelligens. Para is still stuck though. Cmt4 got popular coz it was the easiest map to learn, and THATS IT, has nothing to do with the quality of the map whatsoever (you need teamplay to get penta (c) goljat. gg :> ). And slabby knows the map a little now coz he is FORCED to play it. He would take dm6 over cmt4 anyday. Stop fooling yourself para, its pathetic. Youre so smart that you wanted e2m2tdm in the map pool, then you say it sucks, and now it is in the map pool, a map that has not even been tested. And YOU are telling ME that I got a lame attitude towards maps? omg, you need to start smell the shit you are shuveling. |
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error (213.114.96.116) |
040206 @ 23:48:14 |
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I dont like dm2. Please remove it. |
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Horatio (213.113.172.6) |
040207 @ 00:24:58 |
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why repair whats not broken? tb3 has always worked. And goljat just because you have managed to actually learn a few new maps doesn?t make them any more good or fun? Get back in the sauna! |
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Horatio (213.113.172.6) |
040207 @ 00:32:13 |
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oh sorry, it was gamer who had learnt the maps, can?t tell the difference between one sauna lahtinen from another... |
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Strife (193.12.37.33) |
040207 @ 00:36:19 |
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What is this TB3 everyone is talking about? I thought it was "the big four" cmt4, dm3, dm2 and e1m2?! |
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Gamer (212.246.180.187) |
040207 @ 00:40:22 |
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games are much more interesting now with new maps in the pool thats enough for me... Horatio looks like nobody else cares as much as you :( |
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gaz (62.252.32.7) |
040207 @ 00:44:30 |
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cmt4 is great. thanks. |
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Horatio (213.113.172.6) |
040207 @ 00:53:13 |
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Strife Pleeeeease? Just cuz eq choose the right kenya map wich was PARA-elected into nqr, if u had choosen any other cmt (as you might as well had done) you would get raped in div1 now and not get thoose nice 1pointers :). |
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Horatio (213.113.172.6) |
040207 @ 00:53:58 |
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And please stop get so cranky just cuz i got another opinion about the maps than you gamer... |
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Gamer (212.246.180.187) |
040207 @ 01:02:42 |
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I agree with you that cmt4 isn't as good map as tb3 but it is good enough for competitive play. I don't know about e2m2tdm yet I have played it only once. Sorry for crankyness! |
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Horatio (213.113.172.6) |
040207 @ 01:19:50 |
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Thnx gamer, I am only stating what i think is best for nqr, not saying that cmt4 and/or other maps should not be played at all. Sorry to all of you who got offended and/or angry about it. But i sure miss a tb3 league cuz i never got the chance to play in smackdown since i wasn?t good enough :) |
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DARKL0RD (212.181.212.116) |
040207 @ 01:26:30 |
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I never thought i would play anything else than tb3, but then i finally tryed ctm4 a few days ago, and now i?m hooked.. it rox! :)
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Horatio (213.113.172.6) |
040207 @ 01:37:04 |
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the scene is lost |
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ParadokS (81.19.254.107) |
040207 @ 01:53:48 |
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Only reason why e2m2tdm was even considered was because icce and legio loved that map, and e2m2 was played a fair deal last season. I hated the map from the start but seeing as i convinced them of including e3m6tdm and e3m7tdm it would only be fair to let them have e2m2tdm included and let the clans vote. However I'm quite confident I was right in my previous statement saying that e2m2tdm was voted in based on the option to vote at all. It was first map in the vote list, people might have also remembered it from last season aswel as smackdown. I'm still convinced it's not a good enough map though, but clans are more than welcome to proove me wrong by playing it heaps and testing it to the limit :)
... and yes, I'm very much hooked on cmt4 myself :) Saying it's the easiest map to learn is both right and wrong. It's not that hard to learn at first, but to develop tactics and playing the map is intself a great task even for the best of clans. Which is just yet another example in QW how something simple can be a success even despite of it's flaws. I do see the joy clans have by playing other maps, which is why we can only encourage them to be active in other parts of the community that allows them to do so. http://admortem.quakeworld.nu is a great resource, and links long anticipated teamup tournament might be aswel :) |
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Goljat (80.221.42.91) |
040207 @ 01:55:06 |
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horatia, cmt4 wasn't just paradoks pickup to nqr6, because it was the most played map in nqr5 of cmt maps. There is something new in cmt4, not copy of tb3. It totally needs different kind of playing + much more teamplay skill than dm3,dm2. |
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Horatio (213.113.172.6) |
040207 @ 01:56:26 |
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right, but can?t someone put up just a tiny tb3 league :) (i obviously can?t since i would have done so otherwise) |
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Horatio (213.113.172.6) |
040207 @ 01:58:14 |
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ok golle. I guess i just don?t have the time to learn new maps when i hardly can do the right things on tb3. sad but true |
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ParadokS (81.19.254.107) |
040207 @ 01:59:54 |
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so just accept that you will never be top player, and your too lazy/stupid/busy to learn the tactics on that level as well and let the others be. As i stated above - go play admortem/teamup or even make your own "hello we are all very sucky and only wanna play tb3, eventhough we don't know those maps either". |
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ParadokS (81.19.254.107) |
040207 @ 02:01:44 |
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some clans and players actually find enjoyment in learning the maps and becoming better on them over a period of time. Having a learning curve and building routine. There is just another aspect that top clans also wan't some 'refreshment' and i think neither of those 2 groups would be best off with a 20 map pool like link thinks. |
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ZkilfinG (217.215.198.51) |
040207 @ 02:50:08 |
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I agree that 20 isn't a very good number, either have TB3, 5, 7 or "all" maps. All beeing dmX, eXmY, eXmYtdm, cmtX and possibly some other "well known" maps. But which is best the community will never agree on. |
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tranq (80.201.51.208) |
040207 @ 04:10:58 |
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this will never end... |
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Link (80.213.35.169) |
040207 @ 05:22:19 |
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tranq: no shit :) |
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RaptoR (62.159.19.10) |
040207 @ 10:44:36 |
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always the same 5 persons who are arguing here... looks like the rest of the community is either ok with the map pool or has the patience to wait for this season to finish and then yell out their opinion to others. maybe a good idea for those 5? |
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Firehoppir (217.208.10.191) |
040207 @ 11:27:36 |
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I think Link or someone should make a tdm version of e1m2 and dm2 with a shaft included, that would put a little spice in those fullstart maps :) its too much all about getting the first 4 rls now :/ |
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flinty (217.211.51.251) |
040207 @ 11:38:58 |
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best maps would still be tb3 + e2m2 + e2m7 - easily the best built in maps :|
rest rules with nqr, point-system etc. |
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Icce (195.67.211.134) |
040207 @ 11:39:53 |
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Raptor..you got a point there :) In sweden we have a proverb that says: "Empty vessels make the greatest noise" ^J^ |
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sexC (61.170.230.129) |
040207 @ 12:28:31 |
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if any cmt map was to be a part of the nqr map pool it should've been cmt3. I reckon that there are more people out there that know cmt3 than there are people knowing cmt4...and imo cmt3 is way better balanced than cmt4. come to think about it cmt3 is probably better balanced than any of the tb3 maps...but maybe people just don't find it fun enough? anyway since cmt4 goes back further in qw history in the sense that it was a remake rather than an entirely new map it makes sense to me as to why people "like" this map more. If tb3 would never have existed and only just got created, I bet anything that none of those maps would make it into the map pool at all. Therefore cmt4 had an advantage over the other cmt maps due to the fact that qw players stick to history and remain conservative rather than daring to try something new. oh well the season is up and running and as long as people still play quake I must say that I'm quite satisfied :) |
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Link (80.203.229.225) |
040207 @ 14:05:28 |
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RaptoR: doesnt matter when you yell it out, when you know whats right or wrong from the start :> Some ppl always have to do it the hard way :) Teach me some more sence, would you Icce? |
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king-nEpra (217.210.47.29) |
040207 @ 15:37:06 |
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i will always love this league for having admins taking their time personally attacking people who makes comments here. superb. O'hail the king. |
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error (213.114.96.85) |
040207 @ 15:49:23 |
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I will always love this league for having admins who take the time to answer and debate with the players. I am very much looking forward to links league. It might show that e2m2tdm is not the best remake of a map. 8) |
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Empezar (213.65.59.182) |
040207 @ 15:57:46 |
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e2m2tdm is fun to play but its too much camping and spamming |
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Link (80.203.229.225) |
040207 @ 16:10:04 |
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And that comes from a e3m7 lover? Can I laugh now Emp? :) |
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Empezar (213.65.59.182) |
040207 @ 16:15:46 |
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yeah it's probably the same with e3m7, cause e3m7 is very fun to play, but apparently not a good 4on4 map (nobody wants to play it).. |
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Empezar (213.65.59.182) |
040207 @ 16:16:34 |
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however, on e2m2tdm you can win by just camping RA and taking quad, on e3m7 you gotta do a bit more than that... but whatever |
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gaz (62.252.32.7) |
040207 @ 16:23:07 |
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yeah you have to camp, take quad AND spam rockets towards spawn points. |
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Link (80.203.229.225) |
040207 @ 16:37:39 |
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Sounds like qw? |
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Empezar (213.65.59.182) |
040207 @ 16:45:43 |
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you have to "camp" several locations if you don't want to lose the map, which makes it harder to hold. also there are 2 quads, 1 ring, 1 pent, 2 rls, etc... it's a hard map to hold |
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rekk (194.251.240.117) |
040207 @ 17:21:41 |
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e3m7 is teh bestest teamplay map ever. t. SSC |
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Firehoppir (217.208.10.191) |
040207 @ 18:32:18 |
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dm3 became popular when clan 9 played deathrow there, before that it was too big and nobody could jump across ring/quad :) and sexC, i like cmt3 too but its not as well balanced as cmt4 i think no played map is. |
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Link (80.203.229.225) |
040207 @ 20:00:00 |
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Not very hard to make a perfect balanced map Fire, just do like cmt4: make 2 big rooms, put one RL in each room + one armor, and make fast way to quad from both places. lol? :) |
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Link (80.203.229.225) |
040207 @ 20:02:34 |
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Oh and Rekk, if you spawn correct in the start at e3m7, all you need to do is hold RA, and gg. So just practise vs nmy quad at lava-bridge attacking RA, and then you rule the map. GREAT MAP :) But fins like cs maps the most, like dm2 and dm3, so I am not surprised :> |
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Gamer (212.246.180.188) |
040207 @ 22:43:08 |
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yeah link cmt4 is a bit too simple for my liking too but it sure makes some great quadfights :) |
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Strife (193.12.37.33) |
040207 @ 23:51:02 |
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Horatio: Wouldn't have mattered what map ended in NQR, we rule all maps except tb3. |
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div4-->lol (80.54.178.142) |
040208 @ 00:20:40 |
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zetor div4! ,for jw joined new members(div1) yep it's fair :( |
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pro whiner (62.252.32.7) |
040208 @ 01:22:33 |
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yeah why did admins approve docent joining jw? whats the point in having admins at all if they're gonna let clans who are already too good for div 4 increase their strength even more? |
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janneshaftz0rs (213.114.24.193) |
040208 @ 05:10:44 |
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kissa mig i ?rat, smek min pung - men bara om du ?r fr?n Thailand och riktigt ung! |
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sexC (61.170.230.129) |
040208 @ 06:22:03 |
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could people PLEASE print normal screenshots?! |
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raket (213.204.182.7) |
040208 @ 06:35:29 |
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remove cmt4 and kenya map e2m2tdm - those maps was just added so slackers could win another nqr tournament :<
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drejfus (213.112.144.192) |
040208 @ 10:39:41 |
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i agree with you nepra... i get this amature feeling over the nqr-crew :| |
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drejfus (213.112.144.192) |
040208 @ 10:41:11 |
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and why didnt we vote for 2 new maps, im almost 100% sure that cmt4 wouldnt be in if we voted for 2 new... again amature nqr-crew... |
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cara (213.65.14.236) |
040208 @ 13:21:06 |
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the only thing wrong with new maps is that there will always be more and more new maps, so even if we learn the tactics of each new map you come forward with, how can we be sure that's it? for all i know you can have 10 random maps called nqrDM1-10 ready for the next season. new maps can be funny, but i question their reliability. |
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Horatio (213.113.172.244) |
040208 @ 13:22:34 |
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strife, since you are not playing... :) |
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Horatio (213.113.172.244) |
040208 @ 13:23:48 |
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ParadokS, atleast you could give some credit when i tell the truth, instead of calling me a sucky tb3 player... |
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Horatio (213.113.172.244) |
040208 @ 13:55:34 |
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Besides, i know i cant be a top player, but i still want to have a fun time with even games, like our last match vs ax3 |
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ZkilfinG (217.215.198.51) |
040208 @ 19:14:54 |
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Link: you can't know e3m7 too well if you think one can win by camping low/ra. There are only two spawns in that area so you won't get any frags at all, and even worse the only rockets you have there are the RL at low, so you'll very soon run out of ammo and get raped. In order to win e3m7 you need the tower area, at least the major part of the game. I do think e3m7 has a couple of flaws though, but the tdm version didn't get it right. Perhaps without the start/end tele we would get closer to the original feeling but still have improved the map so it is easier to retake the map. But what I would really like to concider is to move one spawnpoint from tower to low so low gets a harder time. A spawn on both sides of low for instance, end then remove either the spawn between tower/gl or the spawn at tower lift.
I don't know cmt4 enough to tell if it's really good or bad, I know I hated dm3 back in the old days, but I really like it now, so perhaps I will like cmt4 in a couple of years, who knows. But since we're living in the moment I'd rather stick with maps that I think is fun right now, like cmt3 for instance, and many other maps as well.
However I do think cmt4 was a good choice based on why it was selected, ie because it was played most of all cmt-maps in nqr5. Thus it's also likley that many clans would have voted for it. And talking about voting, why do so many people think that's a good way to decide what maps to have? I'd much rather have people who knows more than the majority decide for them than to have the majority vote for something stupid just because they don't know better (yeah, do feel free to apply this to politics as well ;) |
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ZkilfinG (217.215.198.51) |
040208 @ 19:15:48 |
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oh, the \n's didn't work too well, it's really only the e3m7 part that's directed toward you link, even though of course everybody should read it ;) |
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Bronx (128.119.128.137) |
040208 @ 19:49:12 |
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Cmt4 is ok but the damn map has way too many cells how us hpbz compete with those damn lpb shafts :P. Personally I love tb3 but I think the qw comm needs some new maps, im just not sure which ones everyone can agree on. |
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gaz (62.252.32.7) |
040208 @ 22:28:50 |
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you should have seen the original version of cmt4 bronx, there was a second LG near the YA ledge (where the SSG is now). oh and the YA was a second RA. there was also hundreds of rox and cells everywhere. it was so easy to lock :D |
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Legio! (81.224.220.25) |
040208 @ 23:31:45 |
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Omg Drejfus, you hurt my feelings...;). |
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Link (80.203.229.225) |
040208 @ 23:43:26 |
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"Link: you can't know e3m7 too well if you think one can win by camping low/ra". So what excactly are you gonna with tower? Wait for nmy pent and own him? RA is the key, keep RA and PENTA and gg. At RA you can lock the enemy both ways: lock the penta-team, or lock the tower-team. So if you got Penta and RA, you will run out of rockets? Thats ez to solve, camp with Quad at RA, and wait for nmy noob Quad. There are only ONE WAY inn to RA/Penta, this is the reason why E1M3 never made it: only ONE WAY inn to YA. If you know how to play e3m7, it is very much gg if you the Penta spawn. |
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Link (80.203.229.225) |
040208 @ 23:44:31 |
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+ get |
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stal (80.202.35.175) |
040209 @ 01:38:04 |
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keft o spela link |
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Link (80.203.229.225) |
040209 @ 01:46:31 |
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;DD |
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Psycho_Dad (81.225.151.215) |
040209 @ 02:06:38 |
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I rule
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Tezz (195.149.46.182) |
040209 @ 03:13:21 |
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The only way we're going to settle on a larger map pool for leagues (and by god, we need one) is to play many custom maps and see which ones fit. There's no single vote, no quick fix and certainly no amount of arguing that will make it happen any quicker. I for one am quite sick of "The Boring 3". |
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Angua (212.181.55.76) |
040209 @ 03:21:08 |
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cmt4 sux!!
e4m1 roxx!! |
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sexC (61.152.211.50) |
040209 @ 06:38:04 |
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dm7 ffa plz |
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Max Rebo (62.181.254.15) |
040209 @ 08:41:33 |
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Anyways, despite the admin-whines above there were 30+ games played yesterday/past night. |
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kippo (80.186.173.137) |
040209 @ 08:45:44 |
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you're all just w a y 2 e z |
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pattah (195.90.10.201) |
040209 @ 09:28:50 |
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We even have the first W.O. already... woohoo. |
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gaz (62.252.32.7) |
040209 @ 09:35:18 |
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pattah, surely your game vs goh wasnt that easy? :P |
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ZkilfinG (217.215.198.51) |
040209 @ 11:05:48 |
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Well, if you play against people who suck, sure you can camp them out. But since I'm usually in the sucky team I need some real strategy to win. With only 5 rockets it's impossible to hold low for 5 minutes to get the second pent. |
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Horatio (213.113.172.201) |
040209 @ 13:28:26 |
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if u stand in the same place there will spawn alot of new rls in 5 mins, then u get some rockets =) |
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troma (193.11.233.13) |
040209 @ 14:24:05 |
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there?s nothing wrong with this years mappool imo |
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jinx (212.33.141.25) |
040209 @ 15:05:44 |
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I agree Link doesn't know e3m7 :) |
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trev (81.59.65.4) |
040209 @ 15:59:31 |
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ctf5 plz |
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Firehoppir (217.208.10.191) |
040209 @ 16:18:06 |
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hmm i think Link have a point... you are not alone at low... and with a quad you can pretty easy take over tower with a sg teamate with ra who can put the tower guards of focus for a while :) but hanging around waiting for every pent wont work against a good clan, but if you get the first pent and attacking and fixing som armor you can flood ra for some time :) lame map any way |
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ZkilfinG (217.215.198.51) |
040209 @ 17:24:45 |
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Horatio: You only get 10 rls in 5 mins and that's only 50 rockets, while you get no frags and the opponents gets a lot of frags and a lot of rockets. Firehoppir: since tower also have a quad the quads will either camp eachother out or someone will either make a mistake or delay the quad to get an advantage. Either way tower won't lose to a quad that easily if the opponents are doing nothing but camping low/ra. Anyway, it's very fun to play imo, but I do agree that it's too easy to lock it down if you get both low and tower secured. That's why I think it could become better if remade, but the current tdm version isn't very good since it becomes total ffa. |
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Link (80.213.37.174) |
040209 @ 20:22:00 |
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What do you mean ffa? There are 2 ways to penta, and 2 ways to tower. This is FFA in your eyes? 50 rox in 5 mins is enough if you know the map, and you will also get some lame packs with 234234 rox. And how can anyone get any frags at Tower at all if everyone is at penta? And what is "low"? Biggest noob location on e3m7 I have ever seen :)) |
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ZkilfinG (217.215.198.51) |
040210 @ 04:20:56 |
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Low is end, or pent or ring or whatever you like to call it. With two quads things get very chaotic with the start-end tele in my experience. And I've never seen a team winning on camping end/ra only. Of course, if they get pent second pent they can take tower, but the rls will run to start and hide out and come back to take the next quad. If you got any demos from good clans, where both teams know the map, to point me to I'd sure love to see your point be proven. |
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Xcom (217.209.37.98) |
040210 @ 14:09:33 |
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You all forgot the best map, e3m2... |
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Horatio (213.113.172.130) |
040210 @ 14:33:03 |
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the best map ever is e1m6, if you want to play for fun and not take it so seriously :) |
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Vertigo (80.221.246.133) |
040210 @ 14:45:50 |
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Ooh.. activity. |
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Horatio (213.113.172.130) |
040210 @ 14:51:31 |
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Dag's quakeworld demo collection now released on DVD! More than 5 hours of fully loaded action, and an exclusive interview! Now only 499 SEK! |
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supa (80.186.73.160) |
040210 @ 20:06:24 |
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Sorry to bring up old stuff, but nepra wrote something which touched me in a special way, mmm. "But im probably not alone hating dm3 either." <- I hear you! You sure arent alone! |
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mrlame (195.198.44.89) |
040211 @ 00:18:40 |
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sure isn't alone! please ban dm3 and add cmt3 tnx |
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error (213.114.96.69) |
040211 @ 02:40:04 |
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Wasnt cmt3 way to easy to lock down? |
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Link (80.213.35.167) |
040211 @ 02:49:23 |
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you mean like fullstart dm2 and dm3 ? |
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ToT_ejEct (62.78.248.72) |
040211 @ 11:48:05 |
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Why whine??? quake isnt just dm2,dm3,e1m2? Boring! learning new maps and take funny time! cmt4 is great map! |
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m0lle (217.174.65.46) |
040211 @ 14:45:05 |
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yeah CMT4 is great! e2m2 rocks to but the tdm version sux! :/ |
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m0lle (217.174.65.46) |
040211 @ 14:46:00 |
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that was comment nr 120 this is comment 121 .. GG NQR! |
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tranq (192.128.252.68) |
040211 @ 18:10:07 |
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comment 250 wins a new car |
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Horatio (213.113.172.194) |
040212 @ 00:28:13 |
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lets go |
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error (213.114.96.118) |
040212 @ 00:42:04 |
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Yes Link, I mean like dm2/dm3. |
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budzior (156.17.234.216) |
040212 @ 09:11:14 |
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link : you mean like fullstart dm2 and dm3 ?
^_^
HE HE HE :-)
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oosi (194.142.237.2) |
040212 @ 12:38:35 |
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at last a great silence. dont play maps if you dont like them, stop whining. fokken progamers wtf is WRONG ALL OF YOU!? LOL RALF LOTR (c) jkka
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bionic13 (195.9.36.1) |
040213 @ 21:49:28 |
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i find it funny that link is the one shouting the loudest, but still has only played 2 official rounds in NQR the last 2 seasons. Do you actually play quake, Link, or are you simply spending all your time arguing and dictating what maps people should play ?
To the people saying the NQR crew is amateurs: i think we should thank the NQR crew with all our hearts for actually doing all of this for free and in their spare time. |
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znappe (213.114.180.241) |
040214 @ 05:37:33 |
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link = pwmed |
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FlePser (80.60.182.5) |
040214 @ 18:38:56 |
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e2m5 CP |
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sweeper (62.66.143.226) |
040214 @ 22:44:32 |
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Bionic13 said it all, now stfu :) |
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sexC (61.171.26.20) |
040215 @ 08:45:14 |
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auch :] |
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Link (80.213.39.57) |
040215 @ 09:32:42 |
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If they did a good job, in their SPARE time, then this site wouldnt had the same flaws as it still has since NQR3. And ye, I got a good line and a good PC now, so I play almost every day, but what does that have to do with anything? And I dont dictate what maps ppl should play, the NQR admins do. Why dont you go jerk off to some Rosenborg pictures? |
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Link (80.213.39.57) |
040215 @ 09:33:51 |
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Here is an example at this lol site: :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) |
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ZkilfinG (217.215.198.51) |
040215 @ 15:03:17 |
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yeah, that's real ugly link |
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prb (212.76.33.75) |
040215 @ 17:27:09 |
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hp sux and caban is lame :D
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nextone (212.76.33.75) |
040215 @ 17:41:08 |
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lol maybe hp is sux, but JW lol !!!!!!!!!! FAKE CLAN WITH SUPeR LAMER star
fausto :< |
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- (213.113.129.130) |
040215 @ 20:02:29 |
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Link, you're more than welcome to code a better site yourself. The CMDT site really rocks!!! And afaik kryten has already coded the new nqr site (which is a lot improved version), just waiting to get a new design to put it on. Btw how's it going with your league Link? :)) |
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barbro (217.210.151.23) |
040216 @ 01:22:34 |
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I think somthins's wrong :) Better get this fixed.. while ur at it, remove the > on clans.php |
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Link (80.203.229.225) |
040216 @ 02:29:29 |
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Its going ok thanks, but what has the CDMT site anything to do with this shit? And be an adult and put your realnick when you want to try and own me plz. |
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melody (194.89.25.16) |
040216 @ 09:46:58 |
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where is all the news :( |
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jester (62.142.13.171) |
040216 @ 11:09:13 |
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New maps are a good thing to the scene if you play hardcore. I love QW but I don't have the time or will to learn the new maps. I would gladly just play tb3 when I have time and that's it. Now when we a game and our opponents take cmt4 or some other shit I'm just like wtf is this. Playing those maps are no fun to me. But I think I'm just minority and I thank you just for having this league. GG |
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lib (194.47.63.35) |
040216 @ 12:14:32 |
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i think it's great to have somethign else than the big boring 3 as mapchoices. thank god for that... honestly. |
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ParadokS (81.19.254.107) |
040216 @ 14:52:20 |
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jester: that's sad :( CMT4 for example is really fun. It's not about not knowing them, cause it takes a few games on it to know the basics.. and then it really starts to become interesting :) Your missing out man :\ |
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