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Battle Info  2005-03-16 2 - Week 2 (2)
 

 
Satanic Slaughter Clan 1 - 2 Paranoia
 
 

DM3 - The Abandoned Base



110-147

Reports
" Message to Admin: Ana changed nick in the end because we had allready won and he needed to smoke.. so plz no warning.. we r sorry but he played with nick ana for 18 min!" - by NQR Admin

We played fairly well considering bigis and his cmt-guys kicked our asses on this map right before this game :) .. hmm.. good start.. bad end.. but some cs and then victory :p - by Paranoia


Demos
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W.O. - Walkover

1-0

Reports
And here we go. We didn't have time for 3 maps so we offered SSC a WO on this map and they accepted it so we moved on to the decider so we could complete the game. But offcourse this was against the rules and disrespectful vs SSC (who accepted) and we therefor loose 2 points. cheers! or as panic would put it.. [01:09] its like beeing arrested for beeing to kind. - by Paranoia


Demos
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E1M2 - The Castle of the Damned



175-245

Reports
We took the lead, then it was very even until it was 8 mins to go or something.. when mille, ana and panic got very hot and got lots of frags... then in the end i got some spawnfrags as well and the win became quite comfortable.. GG SSC... despite we loose basically all our points for this victory since we obciously disrespected you so much.. sorry mates :<<<< - by Paranoia


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Comments
 
panic - 217.210.241.*** 2005-03-16 20:49:49
\o/
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-16 20:51:00
Well, GG's :)
   
Hagge - 217.210.144.*** 2005-03-16 21:03:37
gotta love para for leaving wo on cmt3, because that's what I suppose they did!?!? :] gg!
   
BIGis - 62.142.245.*** 2005-03-16 21:05:02
respects to para for refusing to play cmt shit ::::)))) tb3 plz :(
   
znappe - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-16 21:06:46
hehe.... why waste 20 minutes loosing on a worthless map :D it was better going straight to the decider in our opinion :D
   
fix - 82.141.91.*** 2005-03-16 21:30:04
just4fun attitude owns ;E
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-16 21:44:11
znappe, please. I would have won cmt3 1vs4, but hey.. e1m2 is more fun :)
   
Horatio - 212.214.218.*** 2005-03-16 22:10:04
yeah, just refuse those lame maps!
plz dont sign up in the first place...
   
Icce - 85.224.77.*** 2005-03-16 22:47:57
Nice to hear..next time u refuse to play we'll have a neat surprise for ya.
   
The NQR Crew - .*** 2005-03-16 23:28:23
The NQR Crew has decided that in view of Paranoia's decision to not play their opponent's map choice they are in breach of the NQR rules by showing gross disrespect to their opponents and to the league itself.
If teams do not want to play particular maps in the pool they should not sign up in the first place.
The NQR Crew wishes to make an example out of this case as a warning to any other team that might have similar ideas and as such, Paranoia will have 2 points docked from their total at the end of the season.
The Crew will NOT be discussing this decision either via these comment pages nor on IRC, the verdict is final.

//The Crew
   
Kauka - 213.112.254.*** 2005-03-16 23:40:55
OBEY!
   
seese - 217.209.64.*** 2005-03-16 23:43:43
YOUR MASTER!
   
BIGis - 62.142.245.*** 2005-03-16 23:46:25
omfg this is bullshit.. so we have to do the +forward;+attack and wank for 20mins like ToT did last season not to lose points?
   
Grass - 85.76.199.*** 2005-03-16 23:47:15
lol, nqr admins..
   
Kauka - 213.112.254.*** 2005-03-16 23:47:19
Yes BIGis and don't even think about discussing this! just make a script that walks around in circles.
   
Zilver - 83.116.150.*** 2005-03-16 23:53:44
gj admins!
   
BIGis - 62.142.245.*** 2005-03-16 23:59:52
I think movement scripts are banned now.. ::(( or is it just the rj scripts?
   
Mursu - 130.232.28.*** 2005-03-17 00:01:47
Good decision IMO.
   
twist - 85.76.198.*** 2005-03-17 00:05:52
rols, gg admins. 20min idle is better?
   
plast - 83.30.70.*** 2005-03-17 00:24:50
Now I'm sure the admins have sth Polish in their blood =).
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-17 00:27:27
rofl this is so lame? ok next time we just idle in the server and irc for 20 minutes then.. not that i care really.. but what to expect of lamer nqr... and we didnt show any disrespect to ssc, we asked if it was ok that we left wo and they said ok, decider.. ok if they had really whined about playing the map i could have accepted this.. but they didnt!??!?!? so why the hell take away our well earned pooints? we won 2 maps, we deserve the points... but once again, normal retardbehaviour by the nqr-crew. nothing new there. So, Idle it is all the rest of the cmt3s then, i suppose that is much better! thanks nqr!
   
boome - 62.72.248.*** 2005-03-17 00:27:36
zomg shitacting
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-17 00:34:03
and just for the record, the reason why we left wo on cmt3 was not because we knew we were going to loose.. i could have gladly stood there and idled.. BUT, ana had to leave for work @ 20.30 cet.. game was supposed to start at 19.00cet but ssc har prac so didnt start before 19.15 or so and therefor we did not have time for 3 maps.. we won first and then we would only have time for one more.. so what is best.. play second and have 1-1 and then have to leave wo? better to finnish the game imo... but.. YOU KNOW BEST AS USUAL, YOU HAVE ALL THE FACTS AS USUAL.. etc.
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 00:40:48
GAZ DOSE IT AGAIN, POWER ABUSE; DOWN WITH GAZ... viva la revolution!!
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-17 00:43:12
Well, I suppose it should be ok to take away points if the other clan really wants to play that map and other team refuse. But we were in a hurry, ana could only play two maps (because of work) and we thought they win cmt3 anyway, so we asked to play e1m2 and it was ok for SSC. I can't see any problems here, or a rule that says you MUST play all maps or lose points :(

Show me that rule if i've missed it please :(
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-17 00:43:26
and I have also looked through the rules.. cant see any rule about not giving wo on a certain map regarding the reason? so how is it possible to just put one in when it fits you and then only HITS us? maybe you should declare the rules now and stop hazZzeling us since we didn't even break any rule? but ok.. you are probably right.. AS USUAL.
   
=) - 195.234.150.*** 2005-03-17 00:44:25
If you didn't have time to play all the game, then maybe you should have played the match another time?
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 00:44:46
i agreee with znappe.... why the hell play 1-1 and take wo on the 3th map ... well stupid admin ? la "g?kboet"
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-17 00:45:38
And don't say, "You could have played it another time". Well, we don't have people for games very often :( And we have 2 more games to play this week.
   
znappe - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 00:47:50
poweraabuse ? la putin,lenin,fidel castro..
can you see the likeness between nqr admins and tyrants/dictatorship ?
   
real znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-17 00:49:29
almeida.. use your own nick plEZ
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 00:50:11
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
i mean almeida in nick
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 00:55:03
[00:34:45] * NQR is now known as One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
   
panic - 217.210.241.*** 2005-03-17 00:58:53
gg
   
panic - 217.210.241.*** 2005-03-17 01:03:30
How can you remove our points we tried to make the fariest posible of the situation by giving them their map for free.. cause we didnt have time to play 3 maps? ... Can't you please explain how you think ?? ... Didnt hear any whine from SSC about us showing disrespet?
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 01:06:00
they can do everything they want to do... if a big match was played like LS-SR.. they wouldnt care about it
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-17 01:08:16
[01:05:03] <panic> its like beeing arrested for beeing too kind.
   
?ke Vader - 217.210.101.*** 2005-03-17 01:17:30
You're seriously retarded if you sign up for a league if you're going to give W.O. on maps that you don't want to play or "don't have time to play".

You're all Qw-babies. :(
   
[vvv]snake - 62.177.247.*** 2005-03-17 01:22:16
great advertisement for nqr. what will it be next season?? pay( for elite membership ) to play in nqr ??
   
Sassa - 85.224.244.*** 2005-03-17 01:24:29
love jupe and ananen ;)
PERKELE!!! kenya MAP!!
   
panic - 217.210.241.*** 2005-03-17 01:25:04
yeah sorry SSC for the disrespect.. hope you dont hate us :<
   
spec - 81.197.129.*** 2005-03-17 02:23:47
so sad... word of the day: ! reSPECt !
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-17 02:26:53
?ke Vader: We would play it if SSC didn't agree to play e1m2, so what's the problem? Both teams agreed. :(
   
driz - 203.56.5.*** 2005-03-17 02:38:00
seems like an odd decision if ssc didn't have a problem with it.
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-17 04:07:18
?ke Vader... i seriously question who's the retarded one here? We've allready stated SEVERAL times that the reason for leaving wo was that ana had to go to work, so we wither had to leave wo for map 2 or 3.. offcourse we leave wo for map 2 then so we can finnish the game? ... or? and since they agree i dont even see why you even stated that comment.. please just go away if you dont have anything important or new to inform us about! (obviously you dont).
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-17 04:07:39
driz, that's our point :< this whole story is really sad.
   
panic - 217.210.241.*** 2005-03-17 04:21:14
znappes just wanna have fun
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-17 04:41:06
oOo, j00 ;D
   
Faith - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-17 05:27:51
bull shit as always. sorry ssc ! my fault, it was me who had to get to the work instead of sitting in front of the computer and we gave u wo on a map we would definetly have lost.
gl all
   
Ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-17 05:32:52
E;EEEE
gl nerdie quake crew.
   
Blob - 80.221.26.*** 2005-03-17 06:57:22
This is to Paranoia's, we understood the situation, that's why we agreed to give that WO it in the first place. So really no hard feelings from our side. My whine calling everyone retarded was caused by frustration that became when SSC's skill level has done a spin, we just to JFF in a prac just before this match etc.
   
sassa - 85.224.244.*** 2005-03-17 07:12:10
this is very funny!!
if you guys see in the end of the rules u can see:
>>1) The NQR admins are ALWAYS right.
>>2) Except when they are wrong. In this case, see 1).

but the thing here is that they do change their verdict from time to time if you give them a good argument!!
However in this case, I dont think you can change their minds.. "The NQR admins are ALWAYS right." ur always wrong.. the end...
Just to spice this up: http://www.quakeworld.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3184
   
Sassa - 85.224.244.*** 2005-03-17 07:16:26
BTW, I really dont choose a side here.. I already got what I wanted, more nqr games ;)
but you guys keep doing what u believe is right (both znappe & co and Nqr admins.. gl with it and hf, im going zzz or some more endif)
   
Ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-17 07:48:34
sassa j?vla traitor. fakin faggot league.
   
lavos - 85.76.15.*** 2005-03-17 07:51:32
Rules are rules, i understand that, but this is for nobodys favorite. If SSC doesnt mind if we give wo to them @ second map, then there should be IF option in rules, cause this is frustrating. Other option would have been that we would have to move the game or play 3vs4. So i dont see that this was such a bad decicion? Im starting to like NQR as much as i like finnish justice, and that aint much.
   
Sassa - 85.224.244.*** 2005-03-17 07:56:50
ananen.. lets vote kenya.bps for next nqr ;) isntead of cmt3 :)

btw u should have all ur points.. im not saying against you!
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-17 08:07:12
haah kenya pwnz ;E
what was the team we owned ? hgc? ;E
but the admin who came up with that decision must be a retard. Too bad that some ppl dont have brains at all.
   
Rage - 213.136.25.*** 2005-03-17 08:52:16
It says "The NQR admin crew", so it's not just an admin.

Great move by NQR. Same thing should happen to clans who play a map like cmt3, but only run around like ToT did.
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-17 09:22:59
great move yea..even more great would be a fuckin big stick in ur ass. It was agreed as wo.We just saved 20mins giving the straight wo.
   
Blob - 80.221.26.*** 2005-03-17 10:03:47
You gotta love the controversy that comes up everytime NQR Admins make decision whether it is about a map pool/penalties/player transfers/fake nicking.

But anyways, if Paranoia and NQR admins agree we can re-play this match. How about that option? Just thinking. Paranoia will have chance to get their points back and of course we'll bring our div0 players in.
   
Hagge - 217.210.144.*** 2005-03-17 10:37:05
haha well it's because the NQR admins decisions are pretty fucked up blob.. of course their will be controversy then.. we all love to whine :)

why go against what all the players in this matter wants and make such a stupid decision? to scare others from doing something like this? This is not the right way to show that the rules should be followed no matter what, since the players want something else.. lolz B<
   
Hagge - 217.210.144.*** 2005-03-17 10:37:21
MOI ANA! IS PARANOIA PLAYING IN SMACKDOWN TOO?????? Be
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 10:50:47
Listen up now, I am speaking: QW is about fun, fun for you, and fun for the other teams you are playing. When you give WO coz you dont want to play a map, then I would say you are taking away the fun from the other team. They WANT TO play a certain map, because they think it's fun. Do you think they want to win on WO all the time? When you REFUSE to play that map, then I would say that you are taking some of the fun away from your opponents. Or Im I wrong? Is NQR all about WINNING? Shall we just let NQR be about WINNING, and have fun in PRAC games instead? Now listen up NQR admins, and you will understand why I wanted the 3-2-1-0 point system: If you had the 3-2-1-0 point system, then Paranoia would have lost a point. But no, you want to give 3 points to 2-1 victories as well. This means that TB3 clans NEVER need to care about other maps than TB3 (like mongo znappe), because they will get 3 points even if they dont care about the other maps. Now you instead start a shit-storm and take 2 points away from Para because you have to statue an example. Admins: NQR IS A TB3 LEAGUE, THIS IS YOUR DOING. If you keep on having 5 maps only with the 3-1-0 point sytem, then you are PRO TB3. And then you go punish a PRO TB3 clan? L o L . You are all noobs. Best of regards: The King of Admins :>
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-17 11:07:32
first of all. REFUSE TO PLAY THE MAP? read my lips: fuck you! we would have played that map like we did vs VVV if we had had time. i dont give a fuck what map it is. We just asked SSC if it is OK to give WO COS i was in fuckin hurry, and they agreed. WTF U ALL WHINE THAT WE DISS CMT3?? this time we just didnt have time. read more carefully before u start writing ur fuckin column.
hagge yes we are in sd6, and thats a good thing :)
and dont call znappe a mongo u fuckin faggot!
   
reka - 62.248.177.*** 2005-03-17 11:09:49
I totally agree with ananen :< choke to bacon admins 8(
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-17 11:10:04
blob: ei tos meill?k?? ket?? jupei ymc buggyi ollu ;E ja meitsi oli j?is ni hyvin p?rj?sitte :E
   
mushi - 193.136.77.*** 2005-03-17 11:11:22
lnk as spoken
   
mushi - 193.136.77.*** 2005-03-17 11:11:32
true
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 11:13:43
"and dont call znappe a mongo u fuckin faggot!" ..... ZNAPPE YOU TB3 MONGO PLZ READ MY LIPS! Did you get that ananen?
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-17 11:14:41
hihi network bully! get a life girl.
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 11:17:07
If YOU had a life, then you wouldnt reply on that :) What do YOU care about MY life? :)
   
FlePser - 145.81.24.*** 2005-03-17 11:21:08
:> >: (: :)
   
Zilver - 83.116.150.*** 2005-03-17 12:01:23
Oh yea ananen, you sure did 'play' cmt3... Half your team stood still after barely 4 min into the game. You're just a bunch of losers. I say remove all their points!
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-17 12:11:37
ye bunch of fckn motherfuckers! not my fault if we dont find such a big intrest for new maps after 6yrs of TB3.I hope theyll remove ur balls, doubt u have those anywy.
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 12:43:25
Eh ana, first you say it was the time-factor, now you say it was the map :) Whatever, it really dont matter. What matter is that you gave WO and refused to play the map. Permban plz :)
   
lavos - 85.76.15.*** 2005-03-17 12:50:52
peace and love assholes ;E
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-17 12:52:19
Please, just shut the fuck up! If they didn't agree we would have play it, and perhaps played 3rd map 3vs4 or something, but they did agree, so there was no problem. The problem here is the NQR admins.... as usual.
   
plast - 83.30.70.*** 2005-03-17 12:53:26
Link: "QW is about fun, fun for you, and fun for the other teams you are playing."

No, it's not since fjump has been forbidden. No fjump no fun ;).
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 12:54:47
Common, fjump is for dm6-2on2 +forward games, not for competitive 4on4 games :) Skill plz? :>
   
plast - 83.30.70.*** 2005-03-17 13:04:00
It doesn't matter what for it is. I just stated it's fun for me to use it. It could be not fun for you to play against someone who uses it, but that only shows the definition of fun isn't so simple ;<.
   
lavos - 85.76.15.*** 2005-03-17 13:07:04
i wonder how did we ever managed to play 4on4 games 4-6 years ago ;<
   
Rage - 213.10.218.*** 2005-03-17 13:15:52
Ok i'm gonna retake some words, not because ananen is threatening me with sticking an stick in my ass. That was so pathetic I had to laugh. Ananen is pure class in this thread anyways, really amusing to read his comments.
But I can understand that Paranoia feels a bit screwed since SSC agreed to their proposal, so it's rather unfair to punish them. If you punish them, then the crew should punish SSC too and that's not worth it.

Fact is that Paranoia will avoid kenya as much as possible and if they must play it then they won't do much more then hop around, which is pathetic. If you don't like the maps you shouldn't sign up.

It's always so easy to blame the admins. Just don't look in the mirror! Don't!
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 13:21:59
Yeah, but if you only get 2 points for a 2-1 win, then you loose one point by being lame, and that sounds like a better deal.
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-17 13:30:04
Well, if we had played cmt3, I know that I had tried to win anyway. Can't speak for the others, but I like cmt3, not more than dm3, dm2 or e1m2. But it's ok.
   
mrlame - 81.227.129.*** 2005-03-17 13:33:45
so its ok to lame around for 20min link if they only get 2 points for a win or what are u trying to tell us?, that sound really *smart*
but then again your flawless idea's never been your strength link.

we will NOT tolerate the behavior TOT did last season either by just idle thru the map cuz they didn't want to play it, the outcome will be the same so u can try that znappe if u like i don't mind some more work :)

hey rage whats wrong with a stick up your's a** that can be kinda neat sometimes i kinda like it 8(
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-17 13:41:22
oh my god... this is R O F L ;D .. and link.. just have one simple thing to say to u as usual... F U C K Y O U.
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-17 13:44:21
lame you are so retarded so you still don't get the point. i cant understand why it's so fucking hard for most qw-retards to get it.. ANA HAD TO GO TO WORK (ok, you probalby don't know what that is since you probably is a fulltime superstar proquaker mrlame, but other people work for their living!) ... so we asked them NICELY since the game was DELAYED if we could give WO on ONE map so we could FINNISH the game.. and they AGREED... SO WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???? ARE YOU JUST PLAYTING STUPID OR ARE YOU PURE FUCKING MONGOLIOD? I tried to take this nice for a fucking day now.. but you just DON GET IT.. its fucking sad... ZZZZZZZZZz.
   
bps - 217.208.185.*** 2005-03-17 13:47:11
Hehehehehe...
   
bps - 217.208.185.*** 2005-03-17 13:47:29
Du verkar ha f?r l?g sens, panic...
   
mrlame - 81.227.129.*** 2005-03-17 13:49:36
hey i masturbate atleast 2 times each day don't give me that crap im very active, now you are hurting my feelings znappe :(
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 13:55:17
mrlame: dont you understand that some ppl DO NOT like kenya maps, and thereby you can not FORCE them to PLAY IT 100%? This is why the 3-2-1-0 point systme is THE BEST SYSTEM. Yes: you will get WO's on some maps, but NO, that team wont get maximum score. If you can not see that that is a better solution, then ok, you are a noob.
   
swi - 82.183.184.*** 2005-03-17 13:59:15
I agree with Link on the scoring ...and BTW, just "idling" a map for 20 minutes as some people are suggesting is imho worse than WO. So if NQR gonna punish these kinds of WO, the "idling" should be punish the same.
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 14:01:11
Here is another suggestion: If a clan leaves WO on a map, then the other team chooses random map :)
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 14:09:06
The point is that you can not set a boundry on what is idling or not. As long as they have typed ready and the game starts, everyone is entitled to do whatever they want within those 20 minutes: kill team mates, discharge in water, or whatever. The only way to punish them "correctly" is to have a system that gives such a clan less points. It's either that or ban them from the league, or else you will NEVER get rid of this problem. Thanks for sorting this out Link! Yeah: you're welcome!
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 14:10:09
NQR Admins: I am right, and you know it. Learn to live with it :)
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-17 14:14:57
lol, I actually like link more than the nqr-crew... hos is this possible hahah... or maybe i should put it this way, i dont DISLIKE link just as much as the nqr-crew... its a thin line ;)
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 14:18:13
Znappe: the fact is that you ACCEPT to only get maximum 2 points when refusing to play one map. Pluss the fact that you know that I am right, and NQR is not :)
   
?ke Vader - 217.210.101.*** 2005-03-17 14:20:28
@Znappe

Why did you play the game at this date if you knew that Ana had to go to work then?
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-17 14:20:47
I dont refuse any maps though, i just dislike some maps.. but i think that sounds like a better idea.. yes.. 2-1 should not be awarded 3 points, i've always felt that way. but that's not the issue of this certain game which imho have been so seriously fucked up by the crew without any real reason.
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 14:21:26
Lack of clan-organizing is nothing new in this anarchy ?ke :)
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 14:24:48
Znappe: These rules were an accident waiting to happen.
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-17 14:28:58
?ke, we were against the idea of one division 2 all the time, we said it would be hard for us to play all games.. now we had 1.5 hours before ana had to go but the game was delayed due to ssc having prac and some other stuff so there is not much we can do, most ppl in the clan works and often on different times so we have to take any chance we have when are 4 players... is that so hard to understand? and we would have had time if it had started when it was supposed to.. so please dont give me that bs.
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-17 14:29:18
Link, I agree.. like most of nqr's rules ;)))
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-17 14:31:44
?ke Vader: Read, we already answered that question.
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 14:32:54
Well Znappe, it's kind of a paradoks that you agree more with my "anti-tb3"-rules than the current "pro-tb3"-rules of NQR ... I guess that says a lot about certian issues :)
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 14:38:10
ananen , it was GAZ, he was spectator when you played
   
lib - 194.47.63.*** 2005-03-17 14:42:33
drama, glorious drama
   
razor - 81.228.191.*** 2005-03-17 14:57:07
tip: talk to admins about these things BEFORE you play
   
bh - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 15:33:37
gfhgfhgf
   
huh - 193.195.82.*** 2005-03-17 15:35:01
   
the almighty klabbe - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 15:38:55
hmm banned my ip on my other computer ?

first you remove kfjump and auto took message... but not fullbright skins
then you fuck up paranoias points...
what is on the agenda now.. take charge for playing in NQR?...

mrlame i feel sorry for you... having too masturbate 2times everyday... damn to ugly to get a girl ? as znappe said ... pro player in quake.. no life aight
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 15:40:55
lol :)
   
... - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 15:47:38
i meam "a fulltime superstar proquaker mrlame"
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 15:56:58
testing
   
andy - 217.82.4.*** 2005-03-17 16:04:19
Something strange in this thread...I'm agreeing with Link!! The 3-2-1-0 scoring system is indeed better if you want to get teams to PLAY all maps (at least they would try). If you know you're much better and have no problem winning the 3rd map, I can imagine that many teams aren't interested in playing a map they don't like...it's just no benefit (funwise and scorewise).

I also like the suggestion that the team can pick another map (the decider) if the other team Gave WO over their map.

I think the decision made is too hard, it would be different if SSC hadn't agreed on that and really felt disrespected but this doesn't seem to be the case. Sometimes it can be better to talk to people first and THEN make a decision :)
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 16:11:33
andy: pigs can fly! omg!
   
some faker - 83.71.2.*** 2005-03-17 16:33:44
edit: This is not the place for abusing Para :)
Comment edited by gaz @ 03-17-05, 17:04:52
   
mx - 83.71.2.*** 2005-03-17 16:34:26
e :(
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 16:44:54
LOL picture...it should be gaz face not paras :/
   
mrlame - 81.227.129.*** 2005-03-17 16:49:20
the almighty klabbe - 213.114.186.86

mrlame i feel sorry for you... having too masturbate 2times everyday... damn to ugly to get a girl ? as znappe said ... pro player in quake.. no life aight

i get boys doing it for me instead hagge is awesome u should try it slime's lips aren't bad at all either almeida :>
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 16:55:57
you forgot me :(
   
mrlame - 81.227.129.*** 2005-03-17 16:57:56
but link you only like milfs ://
   
Link - 194.248.208.*** 2005-03-17 17:00:09
true :)
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-17 18:13:16
atleast one guy understands something. would be much better decisions by admins if they would talk to ppl. ty andy
razor: If a game is delayed a bit and u dont know that its gonna go this way how are you supposed to talk to fuckin retards and get to play the game?
mrlame: unless you have nothing important business here go make that ur other *w?nkw?nk* now.
   
plast - 83.30.70.*** 2005-03-17 18:24:39
"If you don't like the maps you shouldn't sign up."

Not really. I don't like government in my country and I don't want to have anything to do with it even though it was chosen in democratic election by majority, yet it doesn't mean I can't live here, does it?

Anyway, latest decisions of nqr-crew are only strenthening my doubts if all of these qw-stuff is going in right direction. In my opinion as long as it doesn't hurt anyone players should decide in most issues. It's just a game.
   
razor - 217.210.241.*** 2005-03-17 18:34:59
hehe, yeah would like to talk the admins, but they are so mature so they don't answer questions or comments...
   
panic - 217.210.241.*** 2005-03-17 18:36:53
wopps, i wrote the last comment to razor, sos :)
   
Rage - 213.136.25.*** 2005-03-17 18:46:19
plast:

No one forbids you to play in NQR, but if you don't follow the rules in Kurwaland your will get a fine or you go to jail. Same shit in this league, except they won't put you in a jail but ban you from the league if give you a point penalty.
If you join the league you know that there are some rules.

"If you don't like the maps you shouldn't sign up."

This doesn't say your not allowed to sign up if you don't like the maps, all it says you shouldn't sign up if you don't like the rules, coz you won't like it.

ps. The comparison with a country and an quake league isn't a very good comparison. In a country you don't have much of a choice, except to emigrate to another country. If you want to join this league you have to sign up if you want. A huge difference:)

Oh and the 'no-life' accusations are making this better and better. Keep up the good work almeida,znappe, ananen etc. !!
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-17 18:57:19
save us from ur bs. PLZ?
wtf u keep saying that if u dont like maps? who doesnt? there aint any rule in rules section that comes up with this stupid decision.Go out sometimes rage, itll do good for ur healthy.
   
mrlame - 81.227.129.*** 2005-03-17 19:29:32
All teams are expected to behave properly and treat the opponents and admins with respect. Teams can be removed from the league for repeated offences and teams with a known history of trouble can be denied participation.
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-17 19:47:01
Well it was you who started this shit (NQR-Admins). Both clans were happy until you showed up.
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-17 19:51:38
sad but soooooo true. Wake up admins and ask some information from teams before u make ur future cs decisions.
   
Rage - 213.10.218.*** 2005-03-17 19:53:54
rofl ananen! Thanks for the advice and plz keep up your class comments.

p.s. What's 'out' ? :/
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-17 20:06:00
The best thing is that the NQR-Crew refuse to discuss it. "The Crew will NOT be discussing this decision either via these comment pages nor on IRC, the verdict is final." So even if you can prove something, they wont listen. GG crew. :(
   
plast - 83.30.94.*** 2005-03-17 20:17:26
Rage:

"No one forbids you to play in NQR, but if you don't follow the rules in Kurwaland your will get a fine or you go to jail."

The point is they (Para) didn't break any rule. Yes, they gave WO, but they did it in most gentle way possible, asking opponents if that's ok and explaining why they want to do it. If something is not forbidden then it's allowed. IMO the nqr-crew's decision has been made too fast and too impulsive and now it's too late to undo it with saving the face.

"it says you shouldn't sign up if you don't like the rules, coz you won't like it"

I don't like many NQR rules (mostly these forbidding sth) 'cause I perceive QW as game played for fun and fun only. IMO NQR should evolve in more friendly league, no admin should interfere as long as none of the playing teams feels sufferer, or is called to judge, etc. I play NQR 'cause competition = fun, I may dislike some rules, but it's still fun. Less fun, but fun. Only sad the border is thiner every new season.
   
panic - 217.210.241.*** 2005-03-17 20:24:56
Arent the rules in NQR made for the people who plays in NQR and not for the admins ? SO if both clans agree on the matchup it should be OK ? So fucked up to even CARE ?? Why are the majority of people IDIOTS nowdays?
   
plast - 83.30.94.*** 2005-03-17 20:37:15
Exactly panic. But... power stupefies sometimes :E.
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-17 21:27:21
plast: nice comment! hope the admins read some stuff here too, and understand something even nothing has to change now.
but for future!! wake up mofos
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 21:30:01
gaz is the only admin in nqr

angua are gone
same thing with manu
phrenic are newb
mrlame playing cs
icce are to old and conservative and fellow the current
legio dose with daddy wants

and rage... go and help mrlame, he needs some help with his dick.. if he have one


All teams are expected to behave properly and treat the opponents and admins with respect.

i dont play in any clan.. dummas
and mrlame ... show the players some respect ffs, talk with ssc and check if they become disrespected!
   
Hagge - 217.210.144.*** 2005-03-17 21:48:39
too much sparetime? :(
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 22:04:42
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/halsa/story/0,2789,618203,00.html ... hagge, k?p den h?r till mrlame, han beh?ver s?kert den
   
Rage - 213.10.218.*** 2005-03-17 22:04:54
I've told earlier in this thread that I don't think there should be a punishment since SSC agreed. I don't think giving a wo coz of a lack of time is a good reason. Play it another day if so.

Ok plast I can understand your view and it's no problem telling what you want. Atleast you do it in an decent way. Writing your opinion without any stupid arguments or accusations.
Some people here start yelling ridiculous things and attack people. That really won't convince any admin.
   
alemida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 22:08:48
well im born to be lame and whine... and gaz made the way im today after the znappe transfer deal
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 22:10:53
if i was part of paranoia... i would leave NQR and play in old fashion SD
   
almedia - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 22:14:27
rage: reschedule the match?.. ehm have you check the list for DIV 2? (the only div2)...
if they reschedule reschedule... the consequence can you calculate
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 22:16:34
show the players some respect !!
   
gaz - 84.92.61.*** 2005-03-17 22:34:34
lol almeida you don't half talk some bull... the last time i saw this much shit was when all the portaloos fell over at reading festival.
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-17 22:35:24
Yeah, that rule about respect should include admins too.
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 22:40:46
gaz... take a look in div2.. it is you own mistake... 15clans ... in div 3 8clans GG I SAY
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 22:41:31
show the players some respect !!

   
gaz - 84.92.61.*** 2005-03-17 22:47:05
mille? almeida just said he's not a player... so i reckon i can talk to him how i like.

almeida, regarding that, you should blame sassa. he presented to us evidence that all division 2 clans wanted bigger division. we didn't want it like that. we bowed to the wishes of the majority. capische?
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-17 22:54:44
bow now?
or do u think the way to solved this shit was right?
give 3 points to sSC and make whole game WO i dont fuckin care. good luck in future
   
gaz - 84.92.61.*** 2005-03-17 22:59:13
Yep I stand behind the crew's verdict 100% and I'm 100% sure it's not changing this time =)
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 23:07:59
sassa... who listen to him.. i didnt notice a pool about bigger div2 or someting when i was a member of freedom

i mean with "show the players some respect"
that you should listen more to the players ...

when you say ">>1) The NQR admins are ALWAYS right.
>>2) Except when they are wrong. In this case, see 1). ".. of course
many players shows different feelings

you should take a chat with SSC IF they was disrespected... as i know they wasnt disrespected and paranoid ask nice if it was OK if paranoid gave them WO on cmt3 and so they could play the 3ed map..

and gaz... you belived it was a prac...cus milton and a other guy didnt play
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 23:10:01
sassa believes that he is a member of NQR
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 23:12:36
if ssc havent agree to play 3ed
then would this case look different.. but now they agree
   
gaz - 84.92.61.*** 2005-03-17 23:15:56
What difference does it make if I thought it was a prac for the 2 minutes I spectated?!
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-17 23:18:03
Gaz, didn't say that my comment had anything to do with almeida.. or did I?
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-17 23:18:04
you are a admin...you should know ;)
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-17 23:33:10
well well this is too pathetic... even for a lameass as me, i'm out. thanks for a great season. maybe we'll meet again when nqr have a new crew? but i seriously doubt it.
   
mrlame - 81.227.129.*** 2005-03-17 23:43:50
cya in the future znappe good luck with your things my best regards
   
Link - 85.164.156.*** 2005-03-18 00:05:03
lol, you still whining here? :) noobs
   
Zilver - 83.116.150.*** 2005-03-18 00:19:46
this is good entertainment :D
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-18 00:57:14
i dont understand how you can be admin mrlame? u basically have no respect for everyone.. you just go around with your lame attitude 24/7 just like me.. the difference is that im not an admin, so i dont have to think about everythinh i say.. but you are the most unserious joke ive ever witnessed as a admin of a nqr-league, there aint a serious and normal functional vain in your entire body.
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-18 00:57:31
for anyone* ... tired.
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-18 00:57:59
qw-league* ... even more tired ;)
   
panic - 217.210.241.*** 2005-03-18 01:39:17
link is a s
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-18 02:46:15
R?dda en s?l, Klubba en norrman! Hey Hey Hey!
   
Rage - 213.136.25.*** 2005-03-18 08:20:57
hurrah! The lamers are leaving! What a glorious day.

Oh dear! plz flame me:(
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-18 10:13:44
who's leaving? not us anyways.. but then again, we aren't lamers either! ;)
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-18 10:14:31
and btw rage, who the hell r u? never heard of u and still u r here bitching about our game ;/ isn't there any kind of noobprotection that u can turn on protectiong your gamereports!? :<<<<<<<<<<<<<
   
Hagge - 217.210.144.*** 2005-03-18 10:34:36
love is in the air! *dududu* B<
   
I_Knockout_U - 213.186.238.*** 2005-03-18 11:12:09
lick my balls
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-18 12:27:49
DOWN WITH GAZ AND MRLAME(fucking cs player)
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-18 12:45:55
i want my frags back! so i can top our superimportant internal fragrank! :<<
   
Strife - 217.208.8.*** 2005-03-18 13:01:57
Well done by NQR admin crew. This pointpenalty should also be applied to games where one team doesn't even try to play the map, like standing still for 20 minutes.
   
mrlame - 81.227.129.*** 2005-03-18 13:19:07
mrlame - 81.227.129.35 2005-03-17 13:33:45


"we will NOT tolerate the behavior TOT did last season either by just idle thru the map cuz they didn't want to play it"
   
Strife - 217.208.8.*** 2005-03-18 13:20:39
And btw, I agree with Link etc, 3-2-1-0 pointsystem seems better for a 5 mappool system.
   
Strife - 217.208.8.*** 2005-03-18 13:26:58
Or maybe not... if the admins gives penalties for standing still through the map, that would probably solve it.
   
gaz - 193.195.82.*** 2005-03-18 13:33:20
That can be done znappe, don't understand why you weren't placed on "inactive" list in fact, seems you were removed from the database altogether. GHOSTS IN TEH MACHIEN!

I disagree with 3-2-1-0, might work if all games are "1 tb3, 1 custom" but that's not the case. I don't think a team that wins 2-0 on 2 TB3 maps should get 3 points and a team that wins 2-1 on all TB3 should get only 2. A win is a win, after all.
Besides, if a team loses a map, it will be reflected in map difference, which is of course the main differentiator if teams are level on points, so it all contributes to the standings int he end.
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-18 13:38:17
:D hehe, well i deleted myself because it seemed like we were going to drop.. but now it seems like we will play nqr as prac anyways .. so i had to readd myself :D hehe.. well.. just have to keep on raping all other games so i become the bestest paranoia 4 REAL! ;<<<

   
gaz - 193.195.82.*** 2005-03-18 13:38:44
Your frags are back znappe, would you prefer to pay in cash or with sexual favours?

I know which I'd prefer!!
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-18 13:40:57
dont play gods gaz and mrlame...
let the teams solve this... if there any problems you go in...but now there is no problem between SSC and paranoia
   
gaz - 193.195.82.*** 2005-03-18 13:43:39
Why are you obsessed with me and mrlame? This was a decision taken by majority of crew (as I recall: myself, Icce, mrlame, manulito, JKova, phrenic)....

I think you're in love with us almeida... don't be sad just because I turned you down :(
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-18 13:44:15
gaz take look at this guy
1 1 vanquish RoT 6b 4 378 94.5

he is too god for playnig in div 6... ban him?
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-18 13:44:49
almeida - 213.114.186.119 2005-03-17 21:30:01
gaz is the only admin in nqr

angua are gone
same thing with manu
phrenic are newb
mrlame playing cs
icce are to old and conservative and fellow the current
legio dose with daddy wants

   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-18 13:45:40
i got my sorce
   
alemdia - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-18 13:45:56
source*
   
gaz - 193.195.82.*** 2005-03-18 13:50:37
You can barely even spell your own name, why should we believe anything you say? :)

angua IS gone, yes
manulito is active and around every day
phrenic is new... so what?
mrlame is active and around every day
icce is active... what the hell does it matter how old he is? you need a mix of views and attitudes in an admin team
legio... well it's true he is the "senior" guy (together with icce) but as has been said before, no decision will ever be made without the majority being all agreed on it.

I really don't know what your point is here...
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-18 13:56:23
i know... my english is not 100% correct (stupid language)..


[15:58:37] <almeida> hmm manu played yesterday
my source: yes, but he has been gone for a month ...
   
gaz - 193.195.82.*** 2005-03-18 13:58:55
He's been in our channel every day for the last 2 weeks, and before that he was on a few days a week from his university.
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-18 14:02:17
and mrlame said no.. cuz he hates znappe
conspiracy i say... against znappe and his paranoia!,
   
Zilver - 83.116.150.*** 2005-03-18 14:04:44
Almeida, now you're just becoming pathic. Give it up will you?
   
almieda - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-18 14:09:15
who put money in you?... schyyy..
gaz i think that you didnt give paranoia a fair vote.. cuz all of you have different feelings about someplayers ,
let the ppl vote!
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-18 14:09:56
som pietro sa en g?ng i tiden ...
"vem satte en femma i dig"
   
Hagge - 217.210.144.*** 2005-03-18 14:11:49
this is so sad :((((((
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-18 14:24:46
always sexual ;DDD
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-18 14:43:36
Zilver: Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker ? Bruce Willes
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-18 14:45:28
One thing... I don't think it's a good idea to let nqr admins who plays in same div have anything at all to do with that div. They will vote for their best! I know it.
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-18 15:05:15
well we got stolen 2 points. i already got over this shit etc. but fuckin cp nqr admins keep putting it up like we refused to play. thats not the way it was, and that fuckin pisses me of! wake up wankers and atleast dont fuckin write bs everywhere. i know its fucked up to face 9mm irl;E
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-18 15:15:12
haha ana u r so fucking cute.. ;DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-18 15:19:33
comment #202 !!!!
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-18 15:44:55
gaz said they voted, a yea right...
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-18 15:45:49
Well, we accept this decision, however it was wrong made. But please stop saying we refused to play, because we didn't. And to write it in your "Round-up of the first 10 days" Gaz, that's far too much. We didn't behave like shit against SSC or refused to play it, so just take 2 points and let it be.
   
phrenic - 81.229.26.*** 2005-03-18 16:42:34
"no decision will ever be made without the majority being all agreed on it." - //new hated nqr admin... :]
   
gaz - 193.195.82.*** 2005-03-18 17:13:38
No one hates you phrenic, because all the bad decisions are clearly made by me and mrlame, no one else...
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-18 17:20:21
lol mrlame is a joke :)
maybe you are the hot 2 in the top :)
but lets stop this shit now?
n00bs! xD
   
gaz - 193.195.82.*** 2005-03-18 17:21:28
The only thing that's hot about me and mrlame is when he takes a dump on my chest!
   
Max Rebo - 84.218.43.*** 2005-03-18 18:18:07
Amazing, the dazzling duo of lameness engaged in shit acting again! Who'da thunk it?
   
lavos - 85.76.15.*** 2005-03-18 18:28:35
im waiting really much our next match... plz dont make any new rules after that match ;<
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-18 23:20:59
ill smoke my joint for u panic
   
Horatio - 212.214.218.*** 2005-03-19 00:39:25
last comment i hope!
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-19 01:01:38
What? :)
   
phrenic - 81.229.26.*** 2005-03-19 02:34:00
mille, i'll always rember that line you wrote.... so sad, "It's funny how you can change opinion about a player that fast", what did you mean... and i thougt you knew me that well that you wouldn't wrote that.
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-19 04:50:47
phrenic.. do you have any exp from others leagues ?
   
almeida - 213.114.186.*** 2005-03-19 04:51:19
cuz i have never heard of your nickname before..
   
mrlame - 81.227.129.*** 2005-03-19 08:19:38
no he paid me 5 swedish kronor and i couldn't say no
   
Icce - 85.224.77.*** 2005-03-19 11:05:25
"znappe - 213.114.186.119 2005-03-16 21:06:46 hehe.... why waste 20 minutes loosing on a worthless map :D it was better going straight to the decider in our opinion :D" Above is the main factor behind that WO. Nothing mentioned there after the game that Para was in a hurry or something else. To prevent this kinda actions in the future we acted fast and strong. This situation would never occured at all if just one player in Paranoia had contacted crew in the first place. But you didn't, and we know the rest..blaming us for this and that, instead of taking responsibility as grown-up's from the start.
Comment edited by Icce @ 03-19-05, 11:11:45
   
phrenic - 81.229.26.*** 2005-03-19 12:53:11
Answer is no.
   
ananen - 81.175.198.*** 2005-03-19 13:52:20
stop this shit already girls! the decision is fucked up but it keeps! so theres nothing much to do or comment anymore so drop it.
gl!
   
Sassa - 85.224.244.*** 2005-03-19 19:34:06
so much hate ? racer
   
mille - 213.65.86.*** 2005-03-20 18:04:21
Phrenic, think you got this all wrong. That line I typed to Retic. Back in the old days I thought he was cool, but not anymore. And this have nothing to do with nqr or you.
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-21 11:33:48
lol icce... look at the ":D" .. how serious was that.. since u hadn't start bitching yet we all thought it was ok so why not make tb3-joke.. but i guess u r too much of a dinosaur to get that :<
   
panic - 217.210.241.*** 2005-03-22 10:54:51
icce, how are we gonna conact you when you dont answer on IRC ?... are we gonna call the NQR admins in the future, plz give me number.
   
znappe - 213.114.181.*** 2005-03-23 02:51:13
why should we even bother to contact an admin when both clans agrees on something that was NOT even forbidden in the rules? gg icce. gg democracy. gg nqr
   
 
 
 
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