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Update 050221
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Signup for NQR8 here.
With another 7 full days of the signup window remaining, we have so far received a total of 68 signups. Last season we got over 100 (and finished the season with 87) so I'm confident we can reach at least 80 odd by the end of the week.
Division 1 clans have been offered a vote on whether they would prefer a TB3 only map pool and it looks very much as though they would. So you can look forward to TB3 only playoff (and divisional) games ? la NQR5.
Finally, it can't have escaped your attention that the page has been changed a little. Thanks to budzior for his nice redesign of the previous template, and credit also to bps who made the logo which budzior adapted for his design.
//gaz
87 comments.
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hmm - 212.159.112.*** |
050221 @ 11:56:36 |
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the new design is nice but take away the "and butchered by gaz" part at the
bottom, it looks stupid |
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Rage - 213.136.25.*** |
050221 @ 11:57:11 |
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no fs? no la? weird! |
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gaz - 193.195.82.*** |
050221 @ 12:19:13 |
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Razor said that he and Spoink are up for joining but Reppie needs to be
persuaded.
According to Striker, LA were put off by the map pool but
as div 1 will be TB3 only I expect that they will signup soon.
I'm
surprised there's no sign of fOm/GO yet though... |
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Apollyon - 82.140.31.*** |
050221 @ 12:34:17 |
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Reppie bored of QW? Millsions of Reppie fans will commit suicide! |
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gaz - 193.195.82.*** |
050221 @ 12:52:43 |
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Probably bored of losing to SR every season :E |
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junior - 62.87.128.*** |
050221 @ 12:56:51 |
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The new design is cool :P
Good Job Budzior -> Master WWW design ! |
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rottah - 80.55.198.*** |
050221 @ 13:17:43 |
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Holy shit, thats true. Budzior 4 president! |
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vkz - 81.182.126.*** |
050221 @ 13:18:42 |
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Whats the news about ezquake ? |
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Division 1 clans have been offered a vote on whether they would prefer a TB3
only map pool
hhaehghehahgaehhahe plz?? |
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Horatio - 212.214.218.*** |
050221 @ 13:34:13 |
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tb3 in div2 also plehez :( |
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-insane- - 83.27.110.*** |
050221 @ 14:43:11 |
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tb3 forevah , plz some Link whine now B< |
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Link - 85.164.154.*** |
050221 @ 16:18:11 |
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Since the elite swedes in div. 1 only want tb3, then I think these elite swedes,
who also is in the admin-crew, can stay the fuck away from choosing maps for the
other div's (cmt3). This is a fucking joke: "We choose CMT3 for you! But we aint
playing that fucking map in our div!" Christ almigthy, wtf is going on? You weak
fucks. End of whine (but more to come when gaz etc starts defending the usual
noob-decision). IF DIV. 1 GET TO CHOOSE WHAT TO PLAY, THEN ALL OTHER DIVS SHOULD
GET TO CHOOSE THE 4TH and 5TH MAP AS WELL. Caps off. |
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fix - 82.141.91.*** |
050221 @ 16:37:28 |
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haha decide already. |
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Max Rebo - 62.181.254.*** |
050221 @ 16:37:58 |
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I'll stick to Smackdown if NQR goes TB3. That is, of course, if GO is placed in
a TB3-div1 (which we should not be). |
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-insane- - 83.27.110.*** |
050221 @ 16:39:35 |
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Come on Max we are placed in div1 too and we`ve played like 2 practise games
since qhlan :K And half of our players traitored for this devil`s game WoW :L |
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gaz - 193.195.82.*** |
050221 @ 16:46:51 |
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Max, GO have to enter or LA won't have anyone to play in playoff quarter-finals
:) |
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fix - 82.141.91.*** |
050221 @ 16:52:18 |
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where is exactly this pool? cant see it anywhere.. |
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gaz - 193.195.82.*** |
050221 @ 16:58:40 |
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Div 1: E1M2, DM2, DM3
Div 2-6: E1M2, DM2, DM3, CMT3, E2M2/Schloss/Grim |
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fix - 82.141.91.*** |
050221 @ 17:06:44 |
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aha so its decided already? |
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gaz - 193.195.82.*** |
050221 @ 17:07:54 |
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Only 1 clan voted for non-tb3 so I guess it's pretty unlikely that it won't be
tb3 :) |
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fix - 82.141.91.*** |
050221 @ 17:10:13 |
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so whats the point of Invitational Cup now?
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fix - 82.141.91.*** |
050221 @ 17:12:49 |
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gaz: ye would have been 2. i guess you'll never understund how important voteing
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o_O |
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gaz - 193.195.82.*** |
050221 @ 17:20:34 |
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CMF's vote was that only vote :) |
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Max Rebo - 84.218.43.*** |
050221 @ 17:34:40 |
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I'm not saying GO won't enter, just that I won't play. I'm only div2 or div3
these days, especially on dm2 and dm3. <3 Kenya |
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stal - 212.33.129.*** |
050221 @ 17:38:09 |
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More .no whine; if cmt3/cmt1 and/or tb3 are the only maps found worthy for next
nqr then WoW seems like a much more fun place to be. LA til semi
direkt.
Love the SD maps though (tb3, e3m7, e2m2). Seems like great fun
:= Thanks Apollyon! |
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Link - 85.164.154.*** |
050221 @ 19:51:40 |
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Its a good thing that NQR listens to the community (c) Icce. You just lost a
div. 1 clan. |
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razor - 81.228.190.*** |
050221 @ 21:33:42 |
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eh sounds like they listen to the majority? so isnt that good? :) i dont mind
playing some weird/fun maps in groupplay but playoff should be decided in tb3!
:( |
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Speed - 81.230.176.*** |
050221 @ 22:02:26 |
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Since its now fine with diffrent map poles for diffrent divisons I sincerely
hope that every division will get the 4th map they vote for, and it wont be one
4th map for all divisions! Or atleast every divsion should be able to vote for a
tb3 only map pole.
As far as playoffs the only reason we got some sort
of "lol" games on the cmt maps was cause the match format of the regular season
was so different from the format used in semis and finals. If your going to use
a "every map gets played" format in the semis and the final then the rest of the
games should be "eliminate two maps and play the remaning 3 maps" *. Since you
then move the emphasis to a more allround map knowledge than the "strong home
map" format used in the previous nqr regular season.
Actually the
div 1 results wouldnt have
changed that much since the only game that would
have ended diffrent in tb3 best of 3 situation would have been sr - la (sr won
dm3,cmt4,cmt3). And in lower divisions ONE game of 12 was a 3-2 game (Assassins
3-2 Rabbit Dogs) compared to 2 of 2 div1 games. Drop best of 5 in lower
divisions?
I believed I should get to whiiine on best of 5 playoff with
3 maps, but nooo. 60% of five map games in nqr3 to nqr5 playoffs would have had
a diffrent winner if it was best of 3 (and 5 of 7 games was 5 mappers). In the
cmf-ds nqr4 quarter-final no clan manged to win a map more than one time (cmf
e1m2,dm3,dm2 - ds dm3,dm2) =).
Actually the ONLY situation where there
is a point to have best of 5 playoff is a tb3 only playoff in div1 (this is for
determine a winner, specs usally likes best of 5 even if its just to get the
chance to whine on maps for 40min)
*with a added bonus for more
close games, the top vs bottom games will still be rapes but you wont change
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I thought it would be the other way around. The rookies in div5 would only have
to learn 3 maps, while the 9 year quake players in div1 knew more than 3 maps by
now. This will hurt the top teams from div2 who has to play these non-tb3 maps
the whole season, and when they qualify for div1 those pracs would be "useless".
By then the div1 teams would have an even bigger advantage, since they would
only been playing tb3 :( |
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Apollyon - 82.140.31.*** |
050221 @ 23:29:44 |
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Good point TCO! |
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Goljat - 193.185.55.*** |
050222 @ 00:33:08 |
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i want to get rid off this, how i can remove slackers from nqr league? This is a
joke league, you change things all the time. No thanks. |
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droogie - 217.168.89.*** |
050222 @ 07:35:06 |
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I got a suggestion:
What about having a form for the clans to fill out
when they register for the next season?
With questions such
as:
Do you want to allow advanced scripting? (Yes/No)
- Scripts for
rocketjumps and tp messages
Do you want to allow timers (such as
angelina)? (yes/no)
Do you want to allow ezquake clients to
participiate? (Yes/No)
Do you want to allow fuhquake clients to
participiate? (yes/no)
Please rate 5 maps as your clan prefer
them:
dm2 - 1 2 3 4 5
dm3 - 1 2 3 4 5
e1m2 - 1 2 3 4
5
cmt3 - 1 2 3 4 5
cmt4 - 1 2 3 4
5
schloss
grim
eXmXtdmX
etc etc etc
If you continue
your way of ruling, you better watch out for George W. Bush, he kinda get
annoyed by this politics.
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Horatio - 212.214.218.*** |
050222 @ 08:07:14 |
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hela havet stormar! |
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blaps - 85.226.50.*** |
050222 @ 09:01:51 |
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Svenska fotbollsf?rbundet meddelar att med start n?sta s?song s? skall det fr?n
superettan och ner?t g?ras f?rs?k med spel p? rund plan, i uppf?rsbacke samt i
bj?rngrop. I allsvenskan spelar man dock som vanligt p? en fotbollsplan. |
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bud - 156.17.235.*** |
050222 @ 10:06:32 |
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kenya maps for all divs. no mercy |
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gaz - 193.195.82.*** |
050222 @ 11:18:44 |
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One possibility we are considering is to keep division 1 with full map pool
during regular season and return to the nqr3-5 style of tb3 only during the
playoffs. |
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gaz - 193.195.82.*** |
050222 @ 11:39:00 |
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Continued: This would be a nice compromise IMO as it would attract clans like GO
etc who want to play a variety of maps and keep the playoffs at the highest
possible level of competition which is better for both players and spectators
alike. (IMO). |
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anni - 212.202.57.*** |
050222 @ 13:14:52 |
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5 map pool for all! anything else is a joke! |
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-insane- - 83.27.113.*** |
050222 @ 13:49:36 |
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Well i think tb3 for playoffs only could work! B< |
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mx - 193.1.201.*** |
050222 @ 15:53:09 |
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best of three, dm4 for playoffs. :K |
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ocoini - 84.48.64.*** |
050222 @ 16:01:27 |
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This is sad.. how long have you played TB3?
Dont you want to learn other
maps?
If you can only play good on thoose 3 maps your not a very good
clan in my eyes..
Div2 winner will be true nqr champions. |
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-insane- - 83.27.113.*** |
050222 @ 17:04:10 |
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Cant u understand some ppl dont have time to learn and practise new maps ?
simple as that ... |
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znappe - 213.114.181.*** |
050222 @ 17:19:02 |
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other maps r fucking boring and really pointless to learn? tb3 for the whole
league ffs.. |
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pusling - 217.8.142.*** |
050222 @ 17:36:15 |
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is this the way we want to go? everything else is going oldschool, and I like
that beeing old as the hills myself. But on the map side, if this goes on we'll
end up with dm3 only. I say go oldschool on maps aswell, its much more fun.
Each clan can choose what ever home map they want from original full quake +
some customs. then each dogpack has their day, then decider is drawn random
from a pool of say 6-8 maps that are viewed as obligatory, meaning non-kenya in
most participants eyes. This would mean that if a n00b clan want to prac wind
tunnels to perfection, and atleast own LA on one map, they can. Much more fun
besides, the best clan's always wins in the end anyhow |
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segg - 82.140.19.*** |
050222 @ 18:29:40 |
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do soccer players complain about playing on the same "map" over and over again?
nah i dont think so...
for us(dybbuk) its hard to learn new maps, we simply
dont have the time practicing the new maps. |
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Speed - 81.230.176.*** |
050222 @ 18:31:03 |
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lol insane its not like a div1 player plays LESS than most low div players. |
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znappe - 213.114.181.*** |
050222 @ 18:42:39 |
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the difference is that the lowdivplayers know that they will allways suck on tb3
so they instead spend all their time getting decent on some retardmap just to be
able to own now and then... and pus.. is dm3 only really a bad thing? i have to
disagree. ;/ |
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Goljat - 85.76.132.*** |
050222 @ 18:56:13 |
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do soccer players complain about playing on the same "map" over and over again?
YES some real madrid players whine to play in moscow, because they dont like to
play on snow field :E |
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almeid - 213.114.186.*** |
050222 @ 19:06:20 |
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i love TB3 expect dm2 then:P
... CMT maps is not a part of the game!.. lets
play .pak maps! |
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bud - 156.17.235.*** |
050222 @ 19:18:23 |
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if u r nqr best clan ever u will won tb3 + cmtX + and all kenya maps.
else
play in sd =) |
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znappe - 213.114.181.*** |
050222 @ 20:59:06 |
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u cant be best at lottokenyamaps, u just have to be the luckiest ;/ |
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Vertigo - 157.24.219.*** |
050222 @ 21:47:49 |
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Just get adjusted to it. Half of QW players demand new maps or they quit
playing, half of them stick to tbh or they hang themselves.
And who
called me a troll? |
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Horatio - 212.214.218.*** |
050222 @ 21:49:18 |
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of all maps that originally where in quake1 there are many playable, we don?t
need more maps |
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slabby - 213.112.28.*** |
050222 @ 22:51:44 |
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Thank you nqr admins and all div1 clans that voted to allow quakemaps in div1.
This means that i can actually have fun in nqr. GREAT INITIATIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!! //
Tribe of Tjernobyl |
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slabby - 213.112.28.*** |
050222 @ 22:52:41 |
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all div1 clans that voted to allow (there was suppose to be an "only" here)
quakemaps in div1 |
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sassa - 85.224.244.*** |
050222 @ 23:35:41 |
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very good point TCO!! |
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Link - 80.111.113.*** |
050223 @ 00:05:10 |
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The everwhining swede-tb3 arguments are always so strong! :) |
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razor - 81.228.190.*** |
050223 @ 00:19:32 |
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who cares what the arguments are, face the fact that people have different
opinions,
cant we like tb3 if we want to link?
are u even gonna play in
div1 this season?
majority seem to wanna have a tb3 playoff in div1 so is
there anything really to discuss? |
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Goljat - 193.185.55.*** |
050223 @ 01:17:45 |
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we didn't know this when I signed slackers, so can you remove us from clan list?
We don't have time/interesting anymore. |
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almeida - 213.114.186.*** |
050223 @ 02:31:22 |
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para is the luckest :P |
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xhrl - 24.80.50.*** |
050223 @ 03:40:57 |
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golo: sr can be removed if that's what you really want. |
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znappe - 213.114.181.*** |
050223 @ 04:02:37 |
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no sorry they cant. |
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Tuna - 212.202.40.*** |
050223 @ 11:09:16 |
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Goljat: yes.. i agree.. russian servers lag awfully :<< ;-p |
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Icce - 193.235.173.*** |
050223 @ 11:36:17 |
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Div 1-teams have requested TB3 only in their div for a long time. Now we finally
let themselves decide via vote option on signups. The verdict were an
overwhelming majority for TB3. If we lose 1 clan but keep 9 by this way to
"listen" to the teams, this is much more preferable than opposite. |
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Grass - 85.76.197.*** |
050223 @ 12:03:21 |
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same map pool to every div's! tb3 to every div playoffs. if div1 teams dont
wanna play cmt3 and (grim/schloss/e2m2) then remove the whole div1. we dont need
ego clown div1 then. so LOL "we dont have time to learn 2 "new" maps. puuh, u
are losers, nothing more. |
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razor - 81.228.190.*** |
050223 @ 12:34:22 |
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i dont see why low div people even whine here, care about your own divisions?
leave us alone! :) |
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skc - 222.65.109.*** |
050223 @ 12:35:36 |
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:( |
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slabby - 213.112.28.*** |
050223 @ 12:36:58 |
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link I have an argument, now i dont have to spend i map of each game drinking
tea and watching television. its such a waste of time just watching your
"quakeguy" get spawnfragged. |
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razor - 81.228.190.*** |
050223 @ 12:45:25 |
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grass i used to welcome new maps with open arms... when link first started his
map campaign a couple of seasons ago i really loved playing new maps and
learning them,
fs were one of the most active in the cmt-leauge
but
since no one in this community can decide which maps are best and the maps just
come and go all the time.. it feels so useless to learn them, now it feels like
"the new ultimate map" comes every week, with the PERFECT design for 4on4 etc
etc..
the fun thing (in playoff) is the competetive part of it, and tb3 is
funniest cause everyone have played tb3 a reasonable fair equal amount if
times.. when new maps comes every season one clan will always have played it
more,, and in the beginning when clans learn new maps, the differences in
mapknowledge can be a hudge distance from each other... even if clan A has
played just a couple of times more than clan B |
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razor - 81.228.190.*** |
050223 @ 12:59:10 |
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and if only playoff has tb3 its gonna be like 50 games with 5 maps and then only
3 games with tb3 anyway :) |
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riker - 213.64.178.*** |
050223 @ 13:29:39 |
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omg tb3 is back, now its time to start warming up 4 real. |
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moris - 146.102.96.*** |
050223 @ 15:08:47 |
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any chance that other divs than div1 could vote for tb3 only? |
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Grass - 85.76.197.*** |
050223 @ 15:42:11 |
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razor, u have good point. I dont like either when maps changing all the time.
cmt3 and cmt4, or older map cmt1 and cmt4 was just fine, but not. Admins wanna
change maps to every season, i agree razor that. |
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moris - 146.102.96.*** |
050223 @ 16:13:17 |
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ah lol what? its tb3 only for playoffs? i thought its for whole season. haha.
greatjob. why do it the way players and teams want it, right? |
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gaz - 193.195.82.*** |
050223 @ 16:18:05 |
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I said that tb3 only for playoffs and 5 maps for reg. season was a possibility.
As it stands that's not the case. |
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Speed - 81.230.176.*** |
050223 @ 17:58:53 |
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Razor: If you remove me and link and the ordinary spamm .. k the ordinary spam
;).. isnt it like 90% of the post from low div players is about not having
the tb3 only options in lower divs?
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Link - 85.164.189.*** |
050224 @ 01:02:14 |
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Razor, if I had it MY WAY, we had been playing all 5 CMT maps from NQR5. But
Icce the puppet said no coz of swede-elite whine on privat MSGs on IRC. Because
of this weakness in the admin-crew, div. 1 is back to tb3 only. gg. |
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mrlame - 81.227.129.*** |
050224 @ 02:47:34 |
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link you are not playing in div1 so whats your concern about div1, focus on your
things and we'll focus on ours cheers dude |
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znappe - 213.114.181.*** |
050224 @ 03:10:55 |
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STFU U R ALL RETARDED FEKKIN WANKAHZ.. STFUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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sassa - 85.224.244.*** |
050224 @ 09:07:46 |
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sweet.. I wanted it to be this way!!
They all (almost all) wanted to play
TB3 only and they got it, just face fact link, most of the teams/players dont
wanna/have no time to learn new maps.. so this is probebly the best
sollution.
If you want to test new maps then join ESL/CML or other divisions
or just kick ur fucking 2 year old plan "teamup" going |
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-insane- - 83.27.117.*** |
050224 @ 18:43:06 |
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Link got owned B<
Nice to whine about mappool in division which you arent
even playing in SNIFF ;| |
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Icce - 85.224.76.*** |
050224 @ 20:21:46 |
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Heh Link..over reacting as usual :P You might have forgotten but I think others
remember the post on nqr about introducing all 5 cmt-maps. 99% of the ppl who
responded there (271) was against it. So in my weakness I listened to them. We
"only" took in 2 of the cmt's. But you our strong wise norweigan dude should
stand tall and defend our unwise descision for 1%, just to let the players
know who rules this shit. And god forbid..the 99% ruined your work with the
maps. Biased by that in your view in this issue...? Nah..you should never admit
that :> |
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niomic - 151.196.22.*** |
050225 @ 01:04:48 |
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I am greatful for NQR Crew's effort, but plz get some fucking balls concerning
decision making?
Democracy isn't the only way to go and every time you
switch maps / rules etc. your authority witheres away. When you announce a new
league, you should have everything SET. "This is our league and these are our
rules!"
You've had all these seasons to observe the community and
should definitely have enough data to come to a conclusion and PUT THE FOOT
DOWN.
People will always whine and no amount of democracy will fix
that. It just seems to me like nobody is really in charge, nobody is willing to
put their dick on the line and say this is it!
And changing rules after
signups? Come on!
The NQR crew are doing a lot of things well, but
managers or directors ye are not.
Oh well, still waiting for the fourth
and fifth map that actually stick for a couple of years. |
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ajkon - 213.113.64.*** |
050225 @ 01:07:05 |
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im on your side link! fun is the name and quake is the game! but for how long?,
even tetris(!) gets boring after just 3 levels.... |
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ocoini - 84.48.64.*** |
050225 @ 04:09:01 |
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...not if you never reach level 4. :p
*dodges a div1 rl* |
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bps - 82.182.140.*** |
050225 @ 06:14:11 |
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Sk?nt o h?ra Riker! |
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Link - 194.248.208.*** |
050228 @ 12:51:21 |
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"99% of the ppl who responded there (271) was against it". Nice to see that you
are telling lies to the public, in public. You sure are a true swede. Are you
mental? |
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