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vs. Clan MalFunction 
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I've written a short piece looking at who's definitely in the playoffs and who is still in with a shout of sneaking in. So put that calculator away and put your pen down; let me show you just what your clan needs to do to get to the playoff places ;D
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| gj gaz, especially with 2B =o) | ||||
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| Gonna play your last games? :D | ||||
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sure, we're aiming to play on wednesday and sunday. all depends on when/if we can manage to get a team online. we got players inactive of various reasons irl. |
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| give us znappe and recalculate div1b? noobs | ||||
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its noobish that clans go inactive and refuses to play and ppl can benefit more on beeing lame and take early wos... sycky system |
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| And you would solve it how? | ||||
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by playing ladder like in nqr2. maybe its unfair cuz it favours ACTIVE clans, but isnt activity all we want? divisions only makes the scene segregated :/ |
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There's a ladder at ESL. NQR is now a league and is better for it; I think this has been one of the most active seasons since the divisions system came into place. There seems to have been far less WOs than last season, for example, and we have removed a lot less clans than at the end of last season. This season: There are a total of 796 players and 89 clans playing in NQR! Last season: There are a total of 652 players and 76 clans playing in NQR! Last season clans were being asked to play 2 or 3 games a week and I think this was a little overwhelming for many teams. Now it's better because there's 1 game a week (and in some rare cases 2). There is certainly a case for making the season a couple of weeks shorter, but overall I'm pretty satisfied with how this season has panned out. I have a couple of ideas for modifying the structure for next season (without changing the A-B system) but these mainly focus on div 1. |
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ok, maybe its just me getting tired of divisions then, thats all. And i still think a ladder run by nqr would draw more clans than any other.. gl with the playoffs |
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personally i liked this season very much. also with the div system and a game schedule i really appreciate. i dont think dybbuk would be that 'active' if we had to search a decent(with some luck) opponent each weekend. but Horatio is right i dont get idea of having voided games. the clan beeing lame/inactive does not care anyway.. and yourself (the nice clan of course!) feel pissed cause you didnt take the easy WO and lose points. |
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both nice and evil clans are stolen on points :). Its ok when lame clans play 1-2 games and then idle cuz then all clans in the divison dont get any points, but when a team plays 5-6 games and the dont give a fuck about the last 2-3 games, thats whats really fucks up for the clans wanting to play all games and maybe reach playoffs... The admins should take this into consideration but i have a strong feeling this problem is hard to solve. A team playing 5 games is not a guarantee for playing all their games, and after loosing 5 games they loose interest but are still not considered to be idle. This is kinda screwed up |
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Well then those clans in the last 2-3 games should apply for the WO before deadline. Simple. Last season there was 49 WO maps (not matches, maps). This season there are 34 so far. Consider that there were less teams last season too, I think you'll agree that this season has been more active. |
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i think clans should stop idling dont join if youre gonna loose 5 games and quit :/ i agree its kinda active but i dont like the "play 4-6 games then idle" clans |
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Advice to all active clans: Get the walkover every time you can, and not let the game be voided. If you think it's lame, you can always play the game later if you can/want. To admins: I would like to know what are the proofs needed to get walkover victory. |
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Either confirmation from the other clan in person, or logs proving that you have attempted to schedule the game (or that the game was scheduled and the opposition failed to show up). |
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What if you sign up with 10 people and 5 of them never show up after you sign up and another quits halfway the season. Leaves us with only 4 players... And we want to play, but we all got quite busy real lives so it's hard to play our games. If we can play then it seems if every other clan in div5b is idle...:(( I'm pretty certain moris will play nqr with his ESl clan next season and I would've done the same if could play with a group of people from the netherlands. This leaves us with 3 players... |
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all the added players are just fakers from other teams ??? Or gaz do you seriously think there are 130 new qw players from nowhere ? |
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I'm pretty confident that there are a lot of new players. Div 5 contains a lot of new clans, and of course there are some clans here that weren't here last season. |
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And there's no "unknown" new clans in the top few divisions; all of the "new" players are in div 4-5 and I think that they'd stand out a little bit more if they were just fakers. |
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Well ESL isnt the same as NQR, ESL will be the same as ad mortem was, just another prac-system, noone really cares about the points from a prac. Imo i Dont really like this division system, we that play in DIV1 cant even play 2on2 nowdays, always like "ah we are div2 or 3,?you are too good" etc, its hard enough to find some 2on2 players, and its even more harder to find 2on2 div1 players. But i doubt there is any other way of making a league possible |
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agreed, lets just get new ip adresses and new nicks and dont tell anyone what we used to call ourselves and start playing ffa and form 80 entirely new clans :) |
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and to all players who sign up for a team, plz be sure to play atleast half of the games or so. if u are unsure about connection and irl stuff then just dont sign up, u will ruin the game for others... |
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"but we all got quite busy real lives so it's hard to play our games" Unless you are total retards you should be able to find a day where all of you can play. Make playing QW a hobby you fancy once a week. We are doing very well this way. In three nqr seasons+one in a national league we managed to play all our games on a sunday. Only 2 out of 50 games in that time were played on another day. And regarding the league system: This year it was perfect. NQR should continue this way and promote/relegate! Good clans/players always had and always will have problems finding willing victims as soon as they got a reputation of being very good. These days you earn this reputation much faster though with NQR divs and it is just more obvious... Ladders are only interesting for two kinds of clans: those that are superactive and would like to play 3/5/10 clanwars per week and those who arent serious at all and play whenever they feel like it. The majority of current qw clans is semiserious though. They will happily play one match a week and anything more would be too much already (like nqr6). On the other hand a mere ladder is not serious enough for them and demands too much if you try to take it serious by playing alot. A ladder would only benefit a minority of qw clans so it is better to have one additionally like Admortem/ESL while the main league NQR stays the way it is right now. |
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"And regarding the league system: This year it was perfect. NQR should continue this way and promote/relegate!" hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say |
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| As usual you are all noobs :) | ||||
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| I agree with Lars-Erik Hempkins! | ||||
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Lars erIk hempKIns! wtf they are in the wrong order!!! |
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lol, that was lame of me i meant Lars erIk hempKiNs! |
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kurwa nie pierdolice bo kurwa im back soon i chuj i bende gral a nie jakis chujaszenko wonz-hgc- albo rakiet kurwa miazdze boty na mojej nowej myszce from festyn i jest J!O! i bende mial neta i KURWA AYE jestme hgc i chuj ~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! troszki jestem pijany L:<<<<<<<<<<< |
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| Voltak. | ||||
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as usual Apollyon paints a pretty picture with dybbuk, the ultimate reliable clan. here here. |
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and NQO is reliable? if so, what's your excuse for the weeks we had to chase you for a game? (WAR, my old clan, div5b) you're not very good with this trolling are you mx (on par with your qw skills i'd say) :/ |
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| just play the games and dont idle | ||||
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| fight fight! | ||||
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A ladder system would make NQR similar to ad mortem in the less desirable ways too, ie. it would not be as interesting. No playoffs = no real goal for clans. A way to improve on the current system would be to relegate and promote clans at the end of each season. |
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if u set a final date and 16 teams go to playoffs. and the relegation and promotion does not work since too many clans go idle or disband during playoffs/pre-season... |
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Just say that you _will_ promote/relegate and the clanhopping/disbanding will stop in no time. |
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why do u think most clans end up last in their division? its because they play 4-6 games and loose them all and then they go inactive... last time nqr had relegation games most of them was not even played |
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i've setup a poll for this issue: http://www.quakeworld.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2617 |
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@mx: well dybbuk has not given a WO .. ever and we have managed to play pretty much all games in every season. We didnt collect all that many WO in our history either. You can have a look here: http://www.dybbuk.de/index.php?ext_language=de&ext_page=wars So I dont appreciate your sarcasm, cant you find something more feasible to poke fun at about Apo if you are so inclined. I can think of several, but I will leave it to your imagination if you decide to try another time. |
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vandal :) Not alot appreciate my sarcasm, its only text and if its bothering you, sorry :) believe it or not, its pretty damn satisfying seeing some one who has done so much for the scene enjoying the game so much and his clan, dybukk look to be progressing nice and swiftly. sinner: I never claimed nQo are, so perhaps mind your own business before making a thick out of yourself. I won't even bother defending my play here, i'll catch you on a server and leave it at that. |
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mx: well i find myself on the offence whenever i see you post after your claim that my clan are shit, so excuse me for not being friendly |
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mx: well i find myself on the offence whenever i see you post after your claim that my clan are shit, so excuse me for not being friendly |
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| damn finger spasm | ||||
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| I didn't read a thing about that!!!! Now I'm curious about what mx said. | ||||
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| he said (and i quote) "eid are shit." | ||||
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k, mx .. we are not really progressing .. its just that we dont progress while everybody else is moving up and down :-) |
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sinner: I suggest you see a therapist if you are offended by any post I make. Frankly, that was quite disgusting to know. If you read up, you will get an explanation of "eid are shit." comment. It may take some time to sink in, you being a total fucking retard, chief. But patience is a virtue. I leave you with a song to remember: E-Zee Posse - Everything Starts With An E |
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who said i was offended? if you perhaps *read* what i wrote, you'll note i said "i find myself on the offence" (as opposed to finding myself on the defence) - any clearer yet? obviously my banter has struck a nerve :) |
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i wonder when horatio will realize that not everyone is like him, that is, a fat ugly nerd with no life |
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| Huge nerd | ||||
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Only way to create dicipline, is to say FUCK OFF to some ppl. Without dicipline, there will be anarchy. But dicipline alone wont help as long as you keep on changing system each season. Again: you are all noobs :) |
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| Hello Link | ||||
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| what the hell is up with you people? Is it so hard to respect people? | ||||
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| Hello to all :D | ||||
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